Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

Well I am going to play Bad Cop here because my Spidey Senses are tingling and my BS meter is twitching.  We have a new Great Divide between here and OUR.  This has happened many times in the past, it's nothing new.  People on both threads "peek" across the divide all the time.

The issue is Smudge, a.k.a. Cyril Smith.  He wrote a paper called "Bucking Coils Produce Energy Gain."  I did a brief search and found him discussing some stuff about Bearden on the JLN Labs web site in 2000.

It all sounds pretty impressive.... It looks like he can talk the talk and walk the walk.

The problem is that there is no way in hell that bucking coils can produce an energy gain.  He reminds me a little bit of "vgray35@hotmailc.com" on the Be-Do forum in the thread "What happens when overunity is achieved?"  It is the most active thread by far on the forum, 437 posts.  But after all that talk over unity has not been achieved and the QEG remains as dead as a doornail.

I have no intention of even trying to do a technical rebut of what Smudge has to say.  I would not be surprised if he bails after more and more test results show nothing, including tests done at the "optimum separation" between the bucking coils.

So even though Chris may be happy that he has what appears to be a "guru" making statements that support Chris' proposition, it's all just a mirage and some kind of fake "pseudo-science that sounds convincingly like science" shtick that Smudge is doing.

I hate to be the Bad Cop but I hate it even more to pretend that an intellectual discussion is going on that backs up Chris' proposition.  A transformer is an under unity device.  A bucking-coils transformer is nothing more than a crippled version of a transformer.  That's all that you really have to know.

People will continue testing and nobody is going to see anything special.  What they see with their scopes and meters is the device under test doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing, nothing more, nothing less.  You can crank out reams of text to fill five phone books and it's not going to make any difference in the world.  The wires in the transformer are lossy, the core is lossy, the coupling is imperfect, and the bucking does nothing more than reduce the inductance of the secondary.  If an ordinary transformer is about as exciting as watching paint dry, a bucking transformer is also about as exciting as watching paint dry.  I don't care how dedicated and how much work Chris did experimenting, the truth is more important than any of that.

So, sorry to be a Bad Cop.  The important thing is that I am not being a Bad Cop as some sort of psychological ploy.  I am being a "Bad Cop" in the sense that somebody needs to speak rationally and talk about reality.  Eventually the tulip bubble burst and reality prevailed.  In electronics reality always prevails.

MileHigh

You are exactly right. I spent some time last night reading the entire thread at OUR. Note that in several places EMJ tells people to try different _contradictory_ things, even to the point of telling Itsu to try different configurations to boost his output, completely negating the "partnered coils oppositely wound" premise.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg44820#msg44820
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg44928#msg44928

And of course there is still _zero_ evidence from EMJ of any OU measurements from anything he has constructed or tested.

People are working with his ideas because _he claimed OU_. Yet he has presented _zero_ evidence, not even "wrong" measurements that show OU. So what is up with that?

The coils behave exactly like any inductors behave, until someone shows otherwise... which nobody has done, most especially EMJ.


Pardon me, I've got to go feed my herd of invisible pink flying unicorns. Then I'm off to prowl some back alleys for discarded monitors and CRT TVs.

[PIH123]

Again...the disruptors were asked politely to leave on numerous occasions by the thread originator, me and others...yet they persisted

But sadly, for anyone that seeks suppression, it is a public forum.
Ironically, complaining about suppression of this technology is one of your big beefs isn't it ?

Did I not clearly state that things were going to get a little rougher around here after they drove Chris off ?

Chris drove himself off after being caught in one deception after another.
I raised a fairly big one about the scope coupling.
His responses proved his lack of skill.

(wouldn't the easiest thing for him to do after that, have been to reproduce his same COP 1.7 results with the scope in dc coupled mode.
All it would have taken was the press of one switch, a reshoot o the same video, and all of the skeptics of this claim, would have looked like fools)

But instead, he ran off three day later. (and no, I am not claiming it was because of my question, there were MANY more unanswered questions than that).

It was apparent to anyone who could read or follow links, that he knew little of what he was talking about (tragically after 16 years on his part, but I won't get into that).
And it was also apparent that once replication test results started rolling in, he would be shown up for this deception.
He took the best exit strategy he could find.
. leave before full embarrassment
. pretend it was due to harassment
. seek a weaker minded crowd to bamboozle next
. take some of the cheerleaders along

   

And "fruitful dialog" left when they harassed Chris out of here.

Sorry, I hate to be the grammar police, but the word you are looking for is "began".
The reason being that the when the cheer-leading coach leaves the field, the pom-pom carriers stand around idly, thus allowing the real action to commence

And I suppose his imaginary son would rather see good ol' dad using the word 'ass' than me huh ?

Mine was clearly stated as a pun related to a common phrase meaning things being in reverse.
Yours are mostly about anal intercourse

And this thread is already way too gone (by you), for him to view. Despite the recent turnaround brought on by the mature testing discussions.

[synchro1]

Ok , set-up No2 -Large ferite core ,2 magnets (from the Magnetron), pulsing coil same as yesterday. Technically if I good understand, the principle is in the change of saturation of the ferite?
Yes, I got some wild vibrations, but the range was between 7-9Hz and even more.  It was vibrating let's say for 15-20 s and then it got still for next 10s and slowly started again. I do believe the final effect mainly relay on the size of the core, material( it permeability) ,strength and the distance between the magnets (determining some mechanical resistance)  It was my last attempt and I am not gonna bother you anymore with this

I want to ask you experienced guys for your opinion. On the next picture is my bench power-supply. I am not sure if is still in healthy condition after so many "things" happened  during the experimentation with HV devices ( namely Ruslans coils etc.).  When I use one channel ,under some conditions (like frequency in the circuit or the voltage increase)  it influence me the second channel. The output on the second channel just is all over the place and switching and so on. I do not remember this doing before. Could be something fried inside? I understand some EMF is going in to it. But shouldn't it be a bit resistant to these sort of things? Generally,I use one diode and ferite choke on the positive lead to give it some sort of protection. Any test suggestion to make sure it works fine?  Thanks.

@John.K1,

Your replication looks great, and "Wild Vibrations" between (7 & 9) Hertz are squarly inside the Shumann frequency range. Anyway you can upload a video of this?

Someone asked for a link to the Heinrich Kunel patent. This video supplies a good explanation by a replicator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDQMMM7gJ4

[a.king21]

Link please? I must have missed that one.

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
page 79

[John.K1]

@John.K1,

Your replication looks great, and "Wild Vibrations" between (7 & 9) Hertz is squarly inside the Shumann frequency range. Anyway you can upload a video of this?

Someone asked for a link to the Heinrich Kunel patent. This video supplies a good explanation by a replicator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDQMMM7gJ4

Hi Synchro.  I am not much movie making person, actually I have never made one for YouTube

I was thinking about that Kunel Patent I know it from somewhere and then I realized I have made some attempt of replication (on the picture below) around an year ago when I was just starting with all this electronic - free energy mambo jumbo   Unfortunately It didn't work for me and the device finished in the cabinet of oblivion.  Today, with more experience I might give it a bit more time and make some things a bit different.    I remember I downloaded some papers here time ago - lenzless transformer. I didn't try to play with that yet. Is here anybody who did?  Just thinking about the coincidence of using capacitors in these designs.  Clearly thinking- Tank circuit makes current to sine alternate. With the intensity of the current flow more or less of magnetism= more or less of saturation of coil=more or less of inductance. Right? What I saw in Akula's movie ( I am sorry to you guys who got a rush from hearing his name   )  - He is using two LC tanks which change the inductance in time domain.  Anyway, back to bench.

Edit: I just watched that your link video- part two and I have to lough  -- he said he blown his transformer - The exactly same happened to me. Now I remember. It was the reason why I didn't continue with that as I didn't have other small voltage alternating source that time