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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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AlienGrey

Quote from: lancaIV on February 25, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
#8511:
torus and 2 electro-magnets

Reverse engineering

ES2265253 Jose Luis Ramos Suarez
2x coaxial transformers and 2 permanent magnets


#8512 shows permanent magnetic force amplifying for rotative devices
Rotative devices have a Manko : rpm-max
Static devices have an advantage : they  can be installed in a cryo-chamber
( :o Okay,I exclude this rotative example ES2387293  ::) )

Compared : thermoelectric converter eff. 1sun output : up to 600 W per sqm = 10000 sqcm               

                      cooled the identical converter can transform up to 10W/sqcm ~ 166suns-radiation (CPTV)

How much electricity can flow through the coil a. by ambiental temperature ( + internal resistance/losses)
and b.how much with coil cooling  ?



Transforming a simple "Kern-Trafo"-transformer :
primary Imris capacitive winding
and secondary DE8903484 ( Wolfgang Hagedorn), splitted ! ;)   


Actio and Re-Actio    Infinitiv : agere
Sisto and Re-Sisto     Infinitiv : sistere
hI I'm not too sure what your describing is there any chanc yoy have a sketch of drawinbg shopwing the core layout windings or aqny core gap your using
kind regards

AG

lancaIV

Hello AG, cause I did not fixed numeric device power in or out numbers I can not give core gap distance et cet. !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=de_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=de_EP&FT=D&date=20120919&CC=ES&NR=2387293A1&KC=A1

This drastic improvement in the performance of the generator compared to conventional ones, is achieved in addition to the fact that said generator (1-2-3) is housed inside a chamber ( cooled at a very low temperature, which can reach 20 ° below zero, for which and through a conduit (9) cold air is introduced into said chamber ( according to the arrows represented in the figures, air flow generated by a fan (10) and which crosses the radiator (11) refrigerator, not shown in the figure.[/font][/size]




http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=U1&LOCALE=de_EP&NUMBER=8903484&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en

here we not read about less transformer input, but material (core,coils )savings !



important scientific facts (and conditioning) ;

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chemie.de%2Flexikon%2FDichte.html


electricity is a plasma/ ions-gas ´= temperature -dependant





beside primary or/and secondary "partnered output coils" also "partnered output magnets" up to Halbach/Ronbach-array




My first interest is " simple construction" which delivers by simple industrial production process the equipment !
The next : safety !

One question related rotative and static energy conversion :
How do we treat " thrust"                 which is not "F"= force = ma = BIL in formula language !?

Now we find the importance in EE of positive or negative scalar and vector forces arrows  !
How we calculate the power conversion -by gear/transmission- step up/step down change  ?
What compares torque - in Nm and rpm- beside Hz in a static device  ?

Richard Fradella given rotative variable speed generator with nominal 1000 RPM and 1000 W output  :


1000 RPM 1000 Watt          1x1x1

500 RPM     125 Watt           0,5x0,5x0,5

100 RPM          1 Watt          0,1x0,1x0,1        = 1/10 nominal RPM but only 1/1000 the nominal power

An hidden/unvisible " HEBEL-/LEVER"-effect ,which parameter/ physical unit = HEBELARM = canti-/lever arm  ?  8)

( Archimedes "screw" : coil turns x Ampere-turns ~ EE : Biot-Savart law )




What shows us the Kanarev " pulse power calculation"  ?  https://fbadhusha.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/9/5/3895546/ele-pulse-power.pdf

                               15000 Watt  ;)    or really 144,8 W   :o   or correct 1,4 Watt consume  8)   ?


                             
                                                   power expanded to power compact







In our daily consume we have Winrush,Wattpeak and Watt-hour : VARIABLE  !


How behaves a variable speed rotative electric MOTOR,nominal values related  ,analog the Fradella generator parameters ?

How to treat the motoric and generatoric devices as couple,also known in broadcasting as frequency converter or as rotative dc motor-ac-generator = " inverter" function !

How we have to controle the input into static devices to serve perfect the VARIABLE PRIVATE HOUSEHOLD electric consume demand  - served by the static generator output ?

cogito ergo consumer sum
Vale bene  ;)


p.s.: our electricity by grid served by :

                                    Grund-Last-,/Mittel-Last-/Spitzen-Last- ( and we pay : Ah-tarife = Wp dependant )

                                                 Kraftwerke - Verbund
= Nuclear,oil/coal/gas,water,wind,solarthermic/voltaic - combination


                                                                          Means :

private household smart-/micro-grid : 1st device : base consume ,low load

                                                                   2nd device: middle consume, medium load

                                                                   3rd device:   peak consume,heavy load

ramset

Perhaps since this is Now in the Hands of OP here.
better to treat topic with "his" wishes [experiments as explained in his post]
recent disrespect for topics and experimenters here [general forum] has caused a big mess.
I am not trying to preach.. just to be reasonable. there are plenty of good experimenters who
will take interest [respectful and genuine interest]
IMO this is not a place for off topic discussions  [forum is filled with such places]

topic tittle should guide experiments---- Partnered output coils - Free energy
should be a builders board with builder/moderator IMO [Chris ??]
Respectfully Chet K PS EMJunkie quote below from hours ago.////PPS did also post note here http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/13112-bucking-coil-inverter/page16


Note: see post 8516 previous page for Mr. Preva and above unity active links
Will post/add later when I get back home.
Thanks to member here for mentioning links not
Opening in screenshot.



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Raycathode

Im currently playing with a creation like this shown it wont work with out the pulse winding
i'm not sure if its OU though you need to experiment with the idea your self

All credit should go to Mr Delamorto as i clame no originality

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48

EMJunkie

Quote from: Raycathode on February 26, 2020, 12:04:17 PM
Im currently playing with a creation like this shown it wont work with out the pulse winding
i'm not sure if its OU though you need to experiment with the idea your self

Raycathode, Thank You for sharing!

This is a general post for all interested parties.

What exactly are Bucking Coils? What is the Purpose by applying this very simple technique? This is important, its important that this is thought about in the right way!

I want to quote:

Quote

CLEMENTE FIGUERA
PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION - Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns, while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.

Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased and reduced in intensity; since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing a circuit is producing electrical induced current .It was considered the possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the electrical current which produces it.

The voltage from the total current of the current dynamos is the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced. Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them; but in the first case, a greater source of mechanical work than obtained electricity is required, and in the second case, the force necessary to achieve the variation of flux is so insignificant that it can be derived without any inconvenience, from the one supplied by the machine. Until the present no machine based on this principle has been applied yet to the production of large electrical currents, and which among other advantages, has suppressed any necessity for motion and therefore the force needed to produce it.


The thought processes of Clemente is important to think about, simply he is investigating Electromagnetic Induction!

Each Coil in Partnered Output Coil's is a Rotor Coil and a Stator Coil of an Electric "Generator" - Does this make sense?

Electromagnetic Induction is encouraged by an Input Coil, but the Partnered Output Coils are the Primary and Secondary Coils in what we would normally think of as a "Generator". I have been through this many time in many different places.

The Mr Preva Experiment shows some basic, elementary principles so one can learn how the Interactions between Two Coils occur at Resonance.

We can only do this together, I am one man, I can not do it for everyone!

Best wishes,
   Chris Sykes