Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[PIH123]

No wonder you all hide behind things like PIH123 and MarkE and TinselKoala!

Ainslie all over again.

When everything else goes south, start complaining about internet handles.

Except this Einstein seems to forget that his real name is not E. M. Junkie.

[picowatt]

@All,

Does anyone know why Itsu's CH1 waveform does not stay (roughly) at or above the rail voltage as in EMJ's?

In fact, Itsu's CH1 appears to go below the ground reference. 

Different probe/ground connection point?  Coupling?

Curious...

PW

[MarkE]

And here we go again with the Fools Patrol! Nice work guys. You're so smart, so clever and yet who will get the last laugh? Not you guys!

In 5 years time, when others are looking for answers, they will come across this, read your amazing insight and shake their head! No wonder you all hide behind names like PIH123 and MarkE and TinselKoala! Ashamed you will be because we will know who you are! Sooner or later! I have the means to show who you are!

Do you really have the amazing technology needed that enables you to convert MarkE into Mark Euthanasius?

[MileHigh]

Bulletin:  Thank you Itsu for making the full set of power-in and power-out measurements on your setup and doing it properly.  He also made a "wrong" measurement using the probe locations in the Meyer schematic and got "wrong" over unity.

Meanwhile Chris is asking "why the spikes disappeared across the load resistor" when Itsu moved his measurement points to across the resistor only.  Another brick in the wall.

Chris did not know how to make his output power measurement.  He held his cards for all of this time when his data could have been discussed on day two of this investigation.

We are all just Little Lost Sheep!  I suppose that we all can just keep on moving.... Just keep on moving along....   Old man river.....

No taters for Chris!!!

You and me, we sweat and strain,
Body all achin' and racked with pain,
Tote that barge!
Lift that bale!
Get a little drunk
And you land in jail.....

[EMJunkie]

Bulletin:  Thank you Itsu for making the full set of power-in and power-out measurements on your setup and doing it properly.  He also made a "wrong" measurement using the probe locations in the Meyer schematic and got "wrong" over unity.

Meanwhile Chris is asking "why the spikes disappeared across the load resistor" when Itsu moved his measurement points to across the resistor only.  Another brick in the wall.

Chris did not know how to make his output power measurement.  He held his cards for all of this time when his data could have been discussed on day two of this investigation.

We are all just Little Lost Sheep!  I suppose that we all can just keep on moving.... Just keep on moving along....   Old man river.....

No taters for Chris!!!

You and me, we sweat and strain,
Body all achin' and racked with pain,
Tote that barge!
Lift that bale!
Get a little drunk
And you land in jail.....

MileHigh,

Well, what I can show, and have already proven, is that the way "You" are being taught to measure things does not account for the real information in the Circuits right in front of you!

Itsu said:

The reason the spikes are so high (on the primary) is that the inductor energy is not yet being coupled to the output load, due either to leakage inductance or diode turn on time or some of both. If it were being coupled to the output load resistor it would not rise so high. The inductor is uncoupled and freewheeling at this point.

Input power= power used to charge the inductor and that dissipated by the FET, and ohmic winding loss. (here we are not counting FET drive power)

Output power= power recovered from the inductor and coupled to the load resistor during the flyback phase minus diode loss and sum of all winding ohmic loss.

Hey ION,

Yes, understand what youre saying. But the scope sees this voltage spike in the secondary Circuit! Just moving the Scope Ground cable shouldn't remove these Spikes. The Scope sees them there initially.

Does this make sense?

We are still missing something here, we are missing 1.3 Watts from the Input Power Source, to the Output, this cant currently be accounted for!

We see on the Output 3.3 Watts above the 0 Voltage Terminal, on the Positive Terminal, 1.4 Watts above the 0 Voltage Terminal, but 3.3 still remains a mystery! (0.6 + 1.4 != 3.3!)

I see the removal of important Wave data on the output, and a loss of 1.3 Watts, there is issues that are not currently explained.

Just moving the Scope Ground cable from 0 Voltage Terminal to the other side of the Load Resistor, should only give us the difference we see in the Load! Not 1.3Watts missing from the equation! This is as the Scientists say, the Values should not change depending on weather you're standing up or sitting down! We are missing Power! Missing real, measured Power.

So Maybe the Cat in Jail, and the nice little Poem is a little too premature MileHigh. Maybe it may end up being you with Egg on your face!

Lets try to work this out, not squabble about this!