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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Void on February 06, 2015, 10:57:41 AM
Hi TK. I don't know, but one possibility is that Akula's released schematics are not complete or are deliberately misleading
to throw people off track. You may have replicated part of Akula's device, but Akula may have left out something critical.
Just so there is no misunderstanding, I am not claiming that I think Akula's devices are definitely real, I am just saying
that no one has presented any convincing evidence of trickery so far. Sure, there are suspicious things about the way
Akula has behaved, such as him releasing schematics, but others not being able to replicate the devices based on those schematics,
but that in itself is not evidence of trickery in his devices. He may be using tricks, he may not. Ruslan claims to have replicated
Akula's second self running device, so at least one person is claiming they have replicated an Akula device. ;)
I have seen no evidence that Ruslan and Akula are connected in any way other than Ruslan showing videos of replications
of an Akula device. You say you believe they are connected. What evidence do you have that Ruslan and Akula are
working together other than speculation? Anything is possible, but usually people will want to have some actual
evidence before making an assertion. It is one thing to say that you suspect they might be working together, but
quite another to imply that they are all in cahoots together, as if this is somehow established already. :D
All the best...

Yes, I am speculating. The "fact" that Ruslan has claimed to replicate an Akula self-runner is evidence to me that they are somehow connected, and Stivep is their spokesperson for English-speaking communities.
You have not addressed the issue of the identical waveforms, nor the deception of Akula's "50 volt per division" displayed on his scopeshot. I am quite sure that he "left something out" and I'm pretty sure what it is, as I have told you: batteries or hidden wires.
It is not necessary for anyone to "present convincing evidence of trickery"... any good magician doesn't show how he's doing his tricks! It is up to the claimant to provide evidence that he is _not_ using trickery, if he wants to convince people he is for real. Certainly an inventor does not have to reveal details to the public... so why are the videos being shown, why are schematics presented at all? Why is Stivep posting and translating, if the inventor does not want to reveal details? This makes no sense.
There is one thing and one thing only preventing proper evaluation of Akula/Ruslan devices, and that is the attitude and lack of cooperation of the claimant(s). Some of the smaller devices are constructed with perhaps 20 dollars worth of parts. Build one, make sure it works then send it off to someone (like you, or a dozen others I could name) who could test it properly and evaluate it and report on it! Why not, if the device has been shown on a video, schematics and scopeshots have been posted, it has no tunable components, etc?  I know why, and in your heart I think you know why too. (Speculation!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujaMvPUBcvY

Do you need to have convincing evidence of trickery?

Vortex1

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 06, 2015, 11:16:41 AM
Re NTE replacement transistors....

Hmmm... interesting. The 2sd1555 crosses to NTE 2331, and the 2sd2539 that I am using crosses to NTE 2353.

The electrical parameters are _identical_ with the exception of continuous and peak collector currents and power dissipation.

The NTE2331 is rated 6 amps continuous, 20 amps peak, 60 Watts dissipation.
The NTE2353 is rated 10 amps continuous, 30 amps peak and 70 Watts dissipation.

Every other electrical characteristic shown in the data sheets is identical.

Data sheets attached below.

TK as you already know:

Other factors to consider is the rather low gain (8 to 10)  and high C-E saturation voltage, up to 5 volts typical of most of these high voltage devices.

If FG drive is set to a low value (3-5 volts) you can expect degenerative current limiting.

If the FG drive current is too low(compared to collector current), the device will revert early in the drive cycle to a current limit value, and hold the inductor current at that value.

You have well spoken my sentiments in post #1081

MileHigh

John:

QuoteIt goes without saying that any claimed self running over unity device could well be using tricks of one sort or another,
but until someone actually shows some convincing evidence of such tricks for any given person, it is of course just speculation.

You can check Itsu's clips.  Perhaps for about two years he has faithfully replicated all sorts of stuff that became a thread on a forum.  Perhaps he even did an Akula circuit.  Every single replication by Itsu reveals the truth - there is nothing to be found because the circuits behave exactly like they are supposed to behave.   There was a big Akula replication effort on OUR and nothing came of it.

So the Akula guy has to fall into one of the "slots" that have been defined for this phenomenon.  Attention hore?  It's one of the slots.

MileHigh

Void

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 06, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
Yes, I am speculating. The "fact" that Ruslan has claimed to replicate an Akula self-runner is evidence to me that they are somehow connected, and Stivep is their spokesperson for English-speaking communities.
You have not addressed the issue of the identical waveforms, nor the deception of Akula's "50 volt per division" displayed on his scopeshot. I am quite sure that he "left something out" and I'm pretty sure what it is, as I have told you: batteries or hidden wires.
It is not necessary for anyone to "present convincing evidence of trickery"... any good magician doesn't show how he's doing his tricks! It is up to the claimant to provide evidence that he is _not_ using trickery, if he wants to convince people he is for real. Certainly an inventor does not have to reveal details to the public... so why are the videos being shown, why are schematics presented at all? Why is Stivep posting and translating, if the inventor does not want to reveal details? This makes no sense.
There is one thing and one thing only preventing proper evaluation of Akula/Ruslan devices, and that is the attitude and lack of cooperation of the claimant(s). Some of the smaller devices are constructed with perhaps 20 dollars worth of parts. Build one, make sure it works then send it off to someone (like you, or a dozen others I could name) who could test it properly and evaluate it and report on it! Why not, if the device has been shown on a video, schematics and scopeshots have been posted, it has no tunable components, etc?  I know why, and in your heart I think you know why too. (Speculation!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujaMvPUBcvY

Do you need to have convincing evidence of trickery?

Hi TK. I actually did address the issue of you getting identical waveforms. I said it is at least possible that Akula
released some schematics which purposely left out certain key details, or which were deliberately misleading. In other words,
Akula may have shown what he wanted people to see, but left out some critical things which he didn't want
people to know and which is important for replicating a device. It is possible.  It is possible he released a schematic for a circuit
which produces waveforms he has shown on a scope in a video, but which is doing something else different or missing something compared
to  what Akula *actually* did in his own device. It is known that Akula is interested in marketing his devices, so it seems unlikely
to me that he would have released all details of his devices in schematics and videos, and he may well have deliberately released
some misleading info to try to throw potential replicators off track. This is not inconceivable to me is all I am saying. :)

It appears you have no evidence that Ruslan and Akula are working together, and you seem to have confused Stivep's
role in all this. Stivep has not ever been promoting Akula's devices. He has translated some of Akula's videos and
has said that he communicated with Akula and tried to convince Akula to release details of what makes his devices work,
but Stivep has said that he suspects that Akula may have released some info to deliberately mislead people about how
his devices work, since Akula was focused on finding investors for his devices, or in possibly trying to get a patent.

All I am saying is there is a world of difference between making assertions based on speculation, and having
actual evidence to support assertions. I have seen no credible evidence of trickery by Akula or Ruslan, and I have
seen no evidence that Ruslan and Akula are working together somehow, although it is all possible. People
have a right as well as ample reason to be suspicious of any claims of over unity, but assertions that any
particular person is definitely using tricks requires some actual evidence, otherwise it is just speculation. I can speculate
all sorts of things about you TK, but if I assert that you are using tricks in some of your videos or that you are in cahoots
with some one then I think most reasonable people anyway would expect some actual evidence to be presented. :D
Does this all really need to be pointed out? Strangely, apparently it does. ;)
All the best...


TinselKoala

Quote from: Vortex1 on February 06, 2015, 11:32:11 AM
TK as you already know:

Other factors to consider is the rather low gain (8 to 10)  and high C-E saturation voltage, up to 5 volts typical of most of these high voltage devices.

If FG drive is set to a low value (3-5 volts) you can expect degenerative current limiting.

If the FG drive current is too low(compared to collector current), the device will revert early in the drive cycle to a current limit value, and hold the inductor current at that value.

You have well spoken my sentiments in post #1081

Yes, that's right and it is clearly happening in the scopeshot you analyzed and also in the ones I have presented using the HD transistor where I compare the underdriven and fully driven conditions. I won't post them again, but you'll find them if you look back in the thread.

Both NTE transistors have the same gain and C-E saturation voltage. The only difference is that the max gain for the higher current transistor is rated at a higher collector current, ditto for the forward voltage rating of the internal diode.

So do we conclude that the circuit should be underdriven, to produce the type of trace with the spike cluster in the middle of the HI portion of the drive duty cycle, in order to get the "ou" measurements? This will pretty much eliminate the major HV spike amplitude of course. On my system, now using the 555 oscillator with its "volume control" turned down to produce waveforms like EMJ's, the major spike only reaches 400 V (load in place) or 1000 V (load loop open).

I'll be posting a video of scope traces showing how the voltage develops as the drive signal increases, in a few minutes. (If all goes well....)