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[EMJunkie]

It proves that the frequency shift you are so excited about is ordinary and expected.  If you understood zeta's relationship to the frequency you would not be surprised as you claim to be.

But still does not explain the 94 Degree phase shift!

Would you like to explain what this means to the Masses MarkE?

[picowatt]

Picowatt - How helpful are you?

Hahaha - Pull your head in!

I just caught up reading a bit of this thread from last night.

I didn't mean to go off topic, I just thought your answer might help explain your "attitude".

Carry on...

PW

[TinselKoala]

Have you taken into consideration that your El Cheepo Current Probe likely has a significant propagation delay? Do you understand what probe skew is? Do you know the magnitude of your Current Probe's delay, and how it would affect a phase determination when compared with the signal from an ordinary passive voltage probe?

Have you bothered to compare the difference between what your Current Probe reads, and what a plain passive voltage probe across a current-viewing resistor reads in the same circuit simultaneously?

I would be happy to answer these questions for you, but I can't find any Current Probes like you are using at my favorite thrift stores, garage sales or back-alley garbage can prowls. I can tell you, however, that the Probe Skew issue has come up before, fooling people into investing millions of dollars in nonsense schemes, and even real, quality, three thousand dollar current probes have significant delays that must be corrected for if accuracy in measurement is desired.

For example:
http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techarticles/tektronix/Probing_power_measuremets.pdf

[EMJunkie]

I just caught up reading a bit of this thread from last night.

I didn't mean to go off topic, I just thought your answer might help explain your "attitude".

Carry on...

PW

In my defence: "To play with Children that think they are Adults, one must play like a Child"

Yes, much of this thread has been hijacked by people that were asked to leave early on, they didn't, but that's why the Internet has such a term: "Trolls"

Feel free to join serious discussion and be helpful!!!

   EMJ

[EMJunkie]

Have you taken into consideration that your El Cheepo Current Probe likely has a significant propagation delay? Do you understand what probe skew is? Do you know the magnitude of your Current Probe's delay, and how it would affect a phase determination when compared with the signal from an ordinary passive voltage probe?

Have you bothered to compare the difference between what your Current Probe reads, and what a plain passive voltage probe across a current-viewing resistor reads in the same circuit simultaneously?

I would be happy to answer these questions for you, but I can't find any Current Probes like you are using at my favorite thrift stores, garage sales or back-alley garbage can prowls. I can tell you, however, that the Probe Skew issue has come up before, fooling people into investing millions of dollars in nonsense schemes, and even real, quality, three thousand dollar current probes have significant delays that must be corrected for if accuracy in measurement is desired.

For example:
http://www.newark.com/pdfs/techarticles/tektronix/Probing_power_measuremets.pdf

TK, most importantly: I want NO Investment!!! I do not want any money from anyone! I don't want anything from anyone...

Maybe something I would like, is for proper investigation by all interested into Devices that show totally unexpected results!

E-Bay has a ton of the same probe's that I have. The reviews are very good to be honest!

Really, TK, what's the absolute Error margin: +- 1%

So your Post is really not much use to us, it is just attempting to put doubt into the minds of others that do not wish to do the research!!! Which is a very sad way to approach Real Science!!!

Please don't forget, I have an output, that is over and above this current topic!

Propagation Delay at 664Hz would be?

Hahaha TK, you're doing the same as MarkE has done, Plucking straws from the Charles Holand Duell's Air!