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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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picowatt

Quote from: tinman on May 22, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
So to explain the two scope shot's below.

I have wound another winding around the outside of the core,so as it has the same length of wire to that of the inner winding's-->(not the same amount of turns-same amount of wire).I am using two identical incandescent bulbs as the load on each output coil-both running at the same time.
The first scope shot shows the blue trace across the primary winding,and the yellow trace across the output coil that is wound around the outside of the core-right along side the primary winding.
As you can see,the output power to the load go's to zero when the primary coil stop's ringing

The second scope shot is with the yellow trace moved from the load on the outer winding to the load(globe) on the inner winding. You can clearly see that even after the primary coil stop's ringing,a current is still flowing from the output coil that is in the center of the core.

The next step is to wind a coil around the outside of the core that has the same number of turn;s to that of the two coils on the inner core-->which is 30 turns,so as our amp turns are equal.. At the moment,the outer output coil has only 10 turn's,as that is all i could get with the length of wire that equaled the length of wire on the inner core coils.

But regardless,it can be clearly seen that the inner coils are recieving a changing magnetic field for a far longer period to that of the outer coil. This transformer is far more efficient than a standard toroid transformer-in that it uses far less wire to achieve a greater output. It also shows that the magnetic field exist 100% of the time toward the center of a toroid,while the magnetic field around the outside of the transformer core ceases to exist when current stops flowing through the primary winding.

Tinman,

Have you checked the DCR/continuity of your inner windings since the potting process?

PW

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on May 22, 2015, 09:12:04 AM
Tinman,

Have you checked the DCR/continuity of your inner windings since the potting process?

PW
First thing i did when i came out of the mould PW.
Both are isolated from each other,and continuity is good.
It was a liquid pour casting,and is a non conductive material.

picowatt

Quote from: tinman on May 22, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
First thing i did when i came out of the mould PW.
Both are isolated from each other,and continuity is good.
It was a liquid pour casting,and is a non conductive material.

Tinman,

Are you certain the DCR/continuity is still OK? (i.e., check it again).

The reason I ask is that the traces from the inner windings look "cap coupled" which could be an indication of an open winding.

Possibly consider placing the inner winding in series with a battery and your bulb to verify DC continuity under a bit of a load.

PW

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on May 22, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Tinman,

Are you certain the DCR/continuity is still OK? (i.e., check it again).

The reason I ask is that the traces from the inner windings look "cap coupled" which could be an indication of an open winding.

Possibly consider placing the inner winding in series with a battery and your bulb to verify DC continuity under a bit of a load.

PW
Just went and checked PW,and both are good. Hooked globe to 12 volt battery via each winding ,and we have 12v @ 620mA-and a bright globe. ;)
The wire sizes are .55mm and .61-so preaty hard to break. The liquid steel is also non contractive when drying.
There is something very different about the magnetic field at the center of a toroid to that of the out side field.
This one is looking good so far,and one must remember-im not using the best core material. My next casting will be a metglass core,which i hope will bring even better result's. Tomorrow i will be winding a 30 turn coil around the outside of the core,so as it matches the turn ratio to that of the inner winding's. I will then conduct the same test,and post result's.

picowatt

Quote from: tinman on May 22, 2015, 10:06:13 AM
Just went and checked PW,and both are good. Hooked globe to 12 volt battery via each winding ,and we have 12v @ 620mA-and a bright globe. ;)
The wire sizes are .55mm and .61-so preaty hard to break. The liquid steel is also non contractive when drying.
There is something very different about the magnetic field at the center of a toroid to that of the out side field.
This one is looking good so far,and one must remember-im not using the best core material. My next casting will be a metglass core,which i hope will bring even better result's. Tomorrow i will be winding a 30 turn coil around the outside of the core,so as it matches the turn ratio to that of the inner winding's. I will then conduct the same test,and post result's.

Tinman,

Wierd...

It sure sounds like your DCR/continuity is OK. 

Just to humor me, consider repeating the test similar to those of your previous traces (primary drive/scope connections the same), but with a battery in series with the secondary/bulb.  Use a lower voltage battery (1.5 to 3 volt) sufficient to see the DC offset on the trace but keeping the DC saturation of the core to a minimum.  This will allow us to watch the DCR/continuity while being driven similarly to previous tests.

I wouldn't blame you for not bothering with the above test if you feel 100% confident that your windings are not opening up during your tests.  Although I do admit this open trace possibility sounds like it is rapidly becoming a "dead horse", those secondary traces sure look consistent with cap coupling somewhere (all connections, test leads, probes, and scope inputs verified?...) and I would want to rule that out 100% before going further. 

Also, I am assuming that one side of the primary and one side of the secondary are electrically connected via the scope probe grounds.  Consider, while repeating your test, connecting together the leads from the primary and secondary winding being used for the scope probe ground connections.  That is, twist one of the primary and one of the secondary leads together and use that junction for both scope grounds.

I would then consider repeating your tests while measuring the bulb current using a low inductance/resistance CSR in series with the bulb.  Connect one end of the CSR to the interconnected primary/secondry winding junctions (as above where both scope probe grounds are connected) and connect the other end of the CSR to the bulb.  Probe the CSR/bulb junction.

PW