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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on June 21, 2015, 07:53:53 AM
Tinman:


MileHigh

It just never ends,dose it MH.


QuoteYou say "the frequency of the spikes is quite low."  It has very little to do with the repetition frequency of the spikes.  It's all about the frequency content in the spikes.  Above a certain frequency content range, the electrolytic cap will do no filtering at all.

Then we must be below that threshold MH,as the scope detects no ripple or spikes.
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Honestly, I don't care what Woopy said.  You made two mistakes and you can't hide behind "about."  You are not the bloody pope.  If you make a clip and make measurements, you should task yourself as a bare minimum to present your measurements in text in your posting, and your power calculations.  Do you think people really want to be doing multiplications in their head as they watch your clip?

You bet ya ass i expect people to do there own calculations,as i have taken the time,made the effort,and spent the cash to build the bloody thing. Do you need your butt wiped as well ?
I was presenting a device upon request-->i wasnt presenting the building design and operational functions of the space shuttle.

QuoteHonestly, lazy is a two-way street.  You are making the clip.  The burden is on your shoulders to not be lazy.  You did a good old verbal walk-through of your circuit in the first four or five minutes of your clip.  That's five minutes of wasted time.  I can guarantee you that the for the majority of people that goes in one ear and out the other ear.  You can just flash your schematic for 10 seconds at the beginning of the clip.  Then people like me open up two copes of your clip, and we keep one copy frozen on the schematic and we watch the live video on the other clip.

I had no intention on producing any kind of schematic MH,and still dont. I only did a partial schematic at the request of MarkE-->who by the way is happy with what i have given.

QuoteYou talk about a bulb test in previous clips,  Why should you assume I watched your previous clips?

I really dont know what is going on with you MH?, my guess is that you get all flustered when you dont have answers that fit the situation. But i clearly stated in that post that i was guessing that you HAD NOT watched the clip yet.

QuoteIn this clip you did a bogus bulb test, another fail.  The only true way for you to compare brightnesses is to have both bulbs lit at the same.  It is truly the only way and it's not something that is negotiable.  So no bulb test was done.

Bullshit.
The bulb test was carried out correctly-->with the same bloody bulb, with the same bloody current through it,and the same bloody voltage across it.The meter reads correctly.

QuoteSo, I don't sense much progress being made with your new clip.   The filtering was not improved for the bulb ammeter and there was no A-B brightness test done.

Your inability to see what the scope is showing you is not my mistake MH. The filtering is good,and the meters read correctly.

QuoteThis above is just a nonsense cliche Tinman.  You are not "in the future" because you are hacking a bloody appliance motor, get real.  Nor am I in the past.

The future is the undiscovered MH. If there is nothing new,then we will simply live in the past.

QuoteHave you read something or looked something up on Google that you want to spring on me?   I can tell you something that I learned in an electromagnetics class about 34 years ago, I am not going to do a search to try to one-up you.  What I can remember is that the wave velocity is limited to the speed of light.  But group velocity can actually be faster than the speed of light.  That means that you can't pass EM energy faster than the speed of light, but in theory you can pass an information signal faster than the speed of light.  That's all that I can remember about that so I am not able to provide any details.  I am assuming that Mark or PW can rattle off all of the details no problem.

No MH,no google. This is something we learn in school.
Gravity MH-gravity travels faster than the speed of light. Now all you have to do is work out what the gravitational force is-->right along with the magnetic force.
And no-i dont know what the gravitational force is,just in case you decide to hit me up on that. But i do know it's faster than the speed of light.

QuoteSo, sorry, but not much progress was made and my previous posting pretty much still stands.

Like this one,your previous post was full of incorrect assumptions and statements.

QuoteIt's a pain in the ass, eh?  I am being a pain in the ass.  But what I am saying to you is just the straight goods.  I really dislike your verbal walk-throughs of your schematics.  It's not the way to go.

As i dont wish to produce a schematic,your lucky you got that much.

QuoteI have good news for you.  I am bowing out, it's too frustrating for me.  You got your cage rattled a bit.  It's up to you to take my real feedback to heart or just keep doing things the same old frustrating ways for your audience.

Again?
I cant take your feedback well MH,as it is incorrect,and based around your own mistakes and assumptions.

QuoteMark or PW will find the error and we will all be back at square one.

If they find the error,then i have learned along the way-->but we will never be back at square one,as learning is never a step backwards. There is every possibility that i have overlooked something some where,but it is not what you have put forth. There is one possibility for what is happening that may cause the P/out to drop over time,but im hoping that is not the case-only time will tell with this one.

QuoteSorry, but the reality is that you are not at the cutting edge of anything.  You have to be very very conservative when doing this stuff.

I was conservative. No schematic,and no power measurements made by me. I only showed what i have,and the readings from the meters and scope.

QuoteExtraordinary claims require two things, 1) extraordinary proof, and 2) working your ass off and leaving no stone unturned to try to find find possible mistakes or to disprove yourself.

What claims?. I only showed the device,and the numbers the equipment was showing me.
Do you not think i have been trying to see why the device dose what it dose. Like i said,there is one possible action that may be taking place,but i just dont know yet,as it hasnt been running long enough to see if that is the case.

tinman

Quote from: woopy on June 21, 2015, 08:39:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IQT5xTJrAY


Very interesting and specially when the turbine is on and the impressive acceleration when the bulb is also on.

I am now playing with  the stator coils (parallelling and serialing ) and try to see how i can organize the shorting circuit.

Thank's for sharing

Laurent

Woopy
Please understand that there are components not listed in the simple schematic,and without these your results will not be like mine-although i may be wrong on that?. But in my case,i cannot get it to work as well without them.

As i have stated clearly some time back,i do not intend on posting a full schematic of the device, as i need something for my self,and my future. My aim is to build a larger version (as soon as i can afford to do so),and have enough mechanical power there to drive a generator that charges the batteries,while being able to draw power of the inner coils to run loads. I cant loop the power back from the inner coils to the battery,as it screws up the operation and workings of the inner coils--this i have tried already.

MileHigh

Just one tiny clarification on my part Tinman that I did not state and should have stated.  And it also echoes what Mark said to me.  Yes of course if you need to "black box" part of your schematic to protect your design that makes perfect sense and of course I respect that.  Notwithstanding that, the real thing you are looking for is why you are getting measurements that don't make sense.  Sorry, but no magic power source is entering the coil you are shorting.  It's a nice fantasy that is in "constant rotation" on the free energy forums but unfortunately it's just a fantasy.  Hopefully you will figure it all out before too long.

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on June 21, 2015, 09:22:27 AM
Just one tiny clarification on my part Tinman that I did not state and should have stated.  And it also echoes what Mark said to me.  Yes of course if you need to "black box" part of your schematic to protect your design that makes perfect sense and of course I respect that.  Notwithstanding that, the real thing you are looking for is why you are getting measurements that don't make sense.  Sorry, but no magic power source is entering the coil you are shorting.  It's a nice fantasy that is in "constant rotation" on the free energy forums but unfortunately it's just a fantasy.  Hopefully you will figure it all out before too long.

MH
Below are two scope shot's.
the first is a screen shot from the first video. The blue trace is across the globe,and with only the small cap in play. We can see the ripple and spikes.
The second screenshot is from the second video where the large cap is in play. Once again the blue trace is across the globe.
Tell me again how the large cap is not smoothing out the pulses and ripples?.

Jimboot

Quote from: woopy on June 20, 2015, 05:11:34 PM
Hi Tinman

Yes i think that it could be better to open a new thread concerning your new development on your V3 rotary transformer.

It seems that here the theory battle is at full speed and your work  will probably be lost in the brouhaha.

I have already dismantled an old electric garden blower and taken out the 240 volts AC motor with 2 poles.

The motor works very well with only the brushes connected to 12 volts DC, in pure iron attraction mode. I can light a neon bulb at each stator coils , and light also an incandescent 6 volts bulb on the stator coils and the input amps slightly drops.

Very interesting indeed

Hope this helps

Laurent


Good to have you back man, I was worried about you. What mr jump said please new thread. It would be good if we could keep build focused and jump back in here for the theory arguments. Seems like a good one to build.