Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[poynt99]

Because as i have said before,any E field that is moving with time has an associated magnetic field,and that field is in phase with but at an angle 90* of the E field. So while the E field circles around the wire,the magnetic field cuts through the wire.

There simply cannot be an E field that changes with time without a magnetic field-be it a near or far field.

Well, you have the means to test your theory.

If in fact a secondary B field is induced (with Em induction, not propagation) as you claim, one should be able to measure it, agreed? If so, then apply an AC or varying DC current to your primary and snoop around with your AC Hall probe to see if you can detect any magnetic field outside the toroid.

[poynt99]

IMO this really gets confusing! Let's consider the E field surrounding a toroid core as you depict.  Assuming for a moment that the E field has equal valued point measurements along the loop integral for any given r, what happens in the center of the core where the field tends to reinforce itself? What happens just above and below the center of the core where the E field tends to oppose itself? Does this not result in a stronger E field in the center of the core and a weaker E field on the outer portion of the core? Maybe I'm missing something here.

partzman

Perhaps it is the difficulty folks have with non-conservative fields? The induced E field (non-conservative) has no flux like a B field (which is conservative) or Electrostatic field (also conservative). So the field does not add, accumulate, or converge in the center of the toroid core (I know what you're saying) like magnetic flux does in the middle of a solenoid coil for example.

[minnie]

  Could it be said that the vectors swirl around?

[EMJunkie]

Hate to sound like a broken record, but really, perform the experiment. The original contention was and is that the B field IS NOT confined within the core. I would strongly suggest you start with that.

I am going to have to agree here, Poynt99 is right.

Do the experiment!

Look for the B Field outside the core in an operating conventional transformer! In ideal conditions with a decent hall probe not the rubbish ones, there should be much less than 1%...

It also seems everyone keeps forgetting that B and E are both the same thing when one changes in Time!!!

E is Orthogonal (At Right Angles to) B

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: for a while, forget the odd NON-Conventional, start at the start, look at simple Induction as it already stands and is well known...

[EMJunkie]

  Could it be said that the vectors swirl around?

Hahaha - John, Good question!

I also have an issue with this description! It seems silly that Science would represent any closed loop as a straight line: A Vector with: x, y and a z coordinate in 3 space...

But Science puts a bunch of small Vectors together, to form the swirls... Just to point in the Direction of the Closed Loop at a particular point in 3 Space... So I cant complain to much...

   Chris Sykes
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