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PW -  €1 billion Stellarator - What a total waste of money! As have been Tomamaks!!!

WOW, that's a lot of could for €1 billion...

Thanks for sharing the article PW.

   Chris Sykes

Even if a hot fusion reactor is never deemed practical, I disagree about this being a "waste of money".

A lot has been learned from all the hot fusion research.

I thought you were a big advocate for experimentation...

PW

[minnie]

  I nearly got my head bitten off when I put the question to a
famous physicist, I daren't ask her again.
   I think if you're harvesting energy from "the vacuum" you
  ought to be detecting Hawking radiation.
   If you don't like me just Jerry Dekker what I put.
  I can't see the hot fusion project as a waste of money,
  could well have significant spin offs even if it don't work.
  I love the ability to share things with you and supposedly
  that was a spin off from CERN.
   Morocco is showing the way with solar and there's interesting
  stuff coming on regarding long distance ultra high voltage DC.
  There's also progress in flow battery development,all exciting
  stuff, I only wish I was 50 years younger!

[EMJunkie]

Even if a hot fusion reactor is never deemed practical, I disagree about this being a "waste of money".

A lot has been learned from all the hot fusion research.

I thought you were a big advocate for experimentation...

PW

PW, Practical Experimentation, yes...

Do you think 1 Billion Pounds on a risky device like this is practical?

Really, if a dollar is well spent on a experiment and Risk is minimal, then maybe it might be worth it.

Tokamak's are some 60 Years in the making, not one has been practical! Worked as it was supposed to work...

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

The title of an Article is always an Important statement!

From MIT: "Thermoelectrically Pumped Light-Emitting Diodes Operating above Unity Efficiency"

So, to you Naysayers, here, you're all no longer needed! MIT is doing OU Work and has done for some time - March 2012

Abstract:
A heated semiconductor light-emitting diode at low forward bias voltage V<kBT/q is shown to use electrical work to pump heat from the lattice to the photon field. Here the rates of both radiative and nonradiative recombination have contributions at linear order in V. As a result the device's wall-plug (i.e., power conversion) efficiency is inversely proportional to its output power and diverges as V approaches zero. Experiments directly confirm for the first time that this behavior continues beyond the conventional limit of unity electrical-to-optical power conversion efficiency.

Yes Reference is Cited and Attached: Ref: Thermoelectrically Pumped Light-Emitting Diodes Operating above Unity Efficiency

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[picowatt]

PW, Practical Experimentation, yes...

Do you think 1 Billion Pounds on a risky device like this is practical?

How else will we know if this method produces better confinement?

I wish there were more funds available to spend on such things.

Science for the sake of science is expensive...

Really, if a dollar is well spent on a experiment and Risk is minimal, then maybe it might be worth it.

Tokamak's are some 60 Years in the making, not one has been practical! Worked as it was supposed to work...

Again, how does one know what will work without actually performing the experiments?  We know that (controlled) hot fusion actually works, that happens every day in labs (and homes) throughout the world.  It is producing controlled fusion with a net energy gain that is the problem.  I was disappointed way back when the AEC decided to spend money more so exclusively on Tokamaks instead of polywell fusors and some of the aneutronic proposals.  Most likely that funding was pushed that direction by heavy lobbying.  However, politics and greed aside, I would like to see more money spent on science and R&D in general.

PW