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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie




Here in Australia, North Queensland's first Hydroelectric Power Station was the work of a single man, Jose Paronella, back in 1933.

Back in the days when men could do something without having to have a list of permits as long as your arm, a single man and his family built the dream of many today. Its called Paronella Park.

I have been lucky enough to visit, back in 09, and recently they have rebuilt the Power Station. Some of my Pictures below and some of the refurbishment.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S Nite John, dont count sheep trying to get to sleep, or you wont sleep at all.

P.P.S: My point is, Electromagnetic Induction is not hard! In-fact after a little study it is very easy, at least to grasp the basics anyway. Thats all you need! Please ask if you need to, thats why I am here. To try and help!


verpies

You have mastered the Faraday's induction and the sign of the induced current implied by the qualitative Lenz's Law - congratulations.
I don't remember you mentioning the quantitative aspects of the Lenz's Law (amount of flux through a shorted ideal coil), that is not taught in books but which has come up on this forum several times.

I wish you were more rigorous in your distinction between magnetic flux (Φ) and magnetic flux density (B).
When you write "field" it is most often not immediately obvious which one you mean.


Anyway, I don't understand how any of this leads you to overunity, so I stay quiet while you continue stating the obvious.

EMJunkie

Quote from: verpies on March 19, 2016, 07:02:01 AM

You have mastered the Faraday's induction and the sign of the induced current implied by the qualitative Lenz's Law - congratulations.



Thank You - I think?


Quote from: verpies on March 19, 2016, 07:02:01 AM

I don't remember you mentioning the quantitative aspects of the Lenz's Law (amount of flux through a shorted ideal coil), that is not taught in books but which has come up on this forum several times.



I have bought this up several times. We all know you know this stuff inside out Verpies.

Quote from: EMJunkie on March 12, 2016, 05:29:37 PM


B = µNI/L

So Gauss (B) = Permeability (µ) * Ampere Turns (NI) / Length (L)


Current (I) flowing through Turns (N) is the Magnetic Field! Current must be flowing for Electromagnetic Induction to occur!!!



EDIT: Quantitatively, a shorted coil is Maximum Current (I) flow for the arrangement and Maximum Current (I) through (N) Turns is Maximum Magnetic Field (B) - Maximum Lanz's Magnetic Field (B).

I have shown this to not be the complete picture all the time however.


Lenz's Law is a Magnetic Field Changing in time!!! It is 180 degrees out of phase to its creator, the primary, Opposing. For an Air Core Transformer, see the flux lines on the coils below: "Air Core Transformer Half Cycle"

One could say that these fields become separate, distinct fields in the space they occupy.


Quote from: verpies on March 19, 2016, 07:02:01 AM


I wish you were more rigorous in your distinction between magnetic flux (Φ) and magnetic flux density (B).
When you write "field" it is most often not immediately obvious which one you mean.




Yes, fair comment. a Distinction is needed.

Flux (Φ) often means a relatively random distribution (at least as random as a Magnetic Field can be) with no real Flux uniformity for a particular Uint Area.

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The gauss, abbreviated as G or Gs, is the cgs unit of measurement of a magnetic field B, which is also known as the "magnetic flux density" or the "magnetic induction." It is named after German mathematician and physicist Carl Friedrich Gauss. One gauss is defined as one maxwell unit per square (centimeter). The cgs system has been formally superseded by the International System of Units/SI-system, which uses the tesla (unit T) as the unit for magnetic field (B).[1] One gauss equals 1×10−4 tesla unit (100 μT ) i.e. (1 T = val 10000 u=G).


The Magnetic Field (B) also known in the Unit of Gauss, is typically used in Transformer Math, it defines the distribution of flux of a unit area, e.g: 100 Gauss 10cm2

If a Transformer were 10cm2, or I should say 10 Square Centimeters in its cross sectional area, then this would have a relatively even distribution of 100 Gauss in our example.

Again I know you know all this, this is for others that may not.

Quote from: verpies on March 19, 2016, 07:02:01 AM

Anyway, I don't understand how any of this leads you to overunity, so I stay quiet while you continue stating the obvious.


I think the key to understanding this, is simply, the Magnetic Field (B) is the (-), the created, or Invoked, or Induced EMF, from the Source, is a Changing Magnetic Field over time! This is key here. This can be used to Invoke Induction again in another Coil.

Or another way, The Source (B) Invokes Secondary (B) which Invokes Tertiary (B), which Assists in Source (B)'s Action, and all can Invoke Output (B)

Or another way, Electromagnetic Induction can occur more than once in certain Coil Arrangements, at no extra cost on the Input!

Electromagnetic Induction is Electrical Energy. Its a result of Certain Magnetic Field Interaction with Conductors.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: Please feel free to correct me and or elaborate on what I have said. I always like to learn.

shylo

Lenz's Law is a Magnetic Field Changing in time!!! It is 180 degrees out of phase to its creator, the primary, Opposing. For an Air Core Transformer, see the flux lines on the coils below: "Air Core Transformer Half Cycle"
So if the primary magnetic field induces flow in one direction, the Lenz magnetic field should produce flow in the opposite direction? Or is the direction of flow is the same just 180deg. out of phase?
My thinking is it must be the opposite direction , that's why there is drag or cogging.
The opposite direction can be siphoned off and stored before it causes the drag effect, and then be used to assist the input.
I'm using a magnet rotor and coils so maybe it doesn't work the same as with stationary coils, but they are basically the same , a varying magnetic field inducing coils.
Lenz law fits the description of what happens (the lag) But I'm not sure that is what is happening.
It's like saying 1+1=2 that's the law, I say 3-1=2 , two different things but the same result.
Is there a way to see Lenz in action?
Sorry I'm just not sure I believe it.
artv     

forest

Lenz law is valid only for current flow. EMJunkie is right about two exact symmetrical windings which produce opposite Lenz law based currents (BEMF) in one primary. The problem is it works fine only in precise air coils. That was the first Don Smith experiments with multiple Tesla transmitters as we know...