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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie




Yes, let us know how you go, and also what you decide to do with all this Electric Power...


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie

Again, for relivance:


Chet, some Scopeshot anaylsys on your agenda? Would be nice to get some different angles on this. I think k4zep is pretty close.

Quote from: k4zep http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20199-energy-conference-graham-gunderson.html

In looking at the waveforms on the scope. It appears that there is a lot going on that was not discussed or stated in the "transformer". IF you look at the one complete Sine wave and consider it to be 360 degrees and the resting time to be another 180 degrees, we see several interesting things that must be considered. Starting with the load on the output in the Syn. rectifier, and the input going down, you see the voltag leading the current by about 90 degrees both in the input current and the output current normal transformer operation.

It still is a normal waveform as the sine wave continues upward through 270 degrees. Sometime after 270 degrees, the sync. rectifier is turned off for a very short period of time and then turned back on. ALSO the H bridge is off/open circuit for 180 degrees after the end of the 360 degree cycle so the transformers input coil is floating during the Energy generation portion of the final 180 degree free floating cycle. All the energy (magic) generation occurs in the last 90 degrees of the normal 360 degree cycle and the additional 180 degree "Rest" period.

Starting at the 270 degree point in the normal waveform, when the load is removed from the transformer and the voltage from the H bridge is approaching zero volts and open circuit, There is a VERY high voltage (+?) pulse in the Primary of the coil reaching 15-1800 volts that is immediately clamped back down (before punching through the input FET's), by the output circuit and then the extra energy generation begins. I "think" there is a HF burst 20-50 VAC, maybe higher, in the RF range, shown as hash on the input resting voltage and the output integrated current waveform. The current REVERSES (clamped by a diode?)back to the input stage and continues most of the time during the resting 180 degree in a positive direction (additional power) in the output stage. This is where the power is generated in the output and where the negative power is added to the input stage. Correctly tuned, that negative return clamped current in the input stage can force the circuit to appear to be operating at +/- zero power. That burst is probably coming from the input core when it is biased properly by the perm. magnet field.(Hence the "Implosion transformer") Is the sync. detector ALSO rectifying the burst pulses, it would have to be considering the waveform????? Or is that just handled by a normal bridge rectifier in parallel with the Sync. Rect. circuit, who knows. I noticed a large multi-wire cable going from the Sync. Rectifier back to the timing board. There was a lot going on in that circuit that the scope hid due to frequency constraints to the probes I think. The output current (extra power) is the integration of that burst by a large amount during the resting period.. Well that's what came to me while I slept last night. This wanders all over the place I hope it is clear enough.

Ben


No sign of the big diode in the circuit doing anything there, unless it is the clamp that Ben mentions, I personally cant see this. The Fets are the only rectification at least from what I can see. Internal Diodes in the Fets will also play a role in the Rectification/Non Rectification here.

We really do see Current and Voltage through much of the cycle, it appears as if the DC Caps may live a short life with the Plus and Minus Current Cycles...

Input I to V Phase Shift: 89.5 Degrees <<<--- Input Power is nearly completely Reactive. (Where have I heard this before)...
Input I to Output I Phase Shift: 20 Degrees
Output Syncronous Rectification turn off: 244.125 Degrees
Output Syncronous Rectification turn on: 248.625 Degrees
Wave distortion could make the above 2 figures incorrect.

Figures are an approximation, based on the image that Reiyuki very kindly posted!!!

Please correct me if I have any of this wrong... I certainly do not wish for others to read this as gospel if it is wrong!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

EMJunkie




Just a little Reminnder: REACTIVE at RESONANCE


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S:  Isnt it odd, how some people take all the credit, for others work!!! I find this very sad...

forest

Is it pure reactive at resonance because :
it is COP>1 even without resonance
or it need special conditions which work only in resonance


that is the question...

EMJunkie

Quote from: forest on July 17, 2016, 03:19:47 AM
Is it pure reactive at resonance because :
it is COP>1 even without resonance
or it need special conditions which work only in resonance


that is the question...



Hi Forest - Perhaps one of the best questions I have ever seen!!! Thank You!!!

I really had hoped this was a question that came up!!! I was going to just answer it, but thought to wait.

Short Answer:

   Yes, youre right - The Input see's no load conditions because the Coils are "Generating" enough energy to Invoke a: Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation. You get this idea... The Load is essentially a short of a particular resistance...


Long Answer:

   There is nothing "Special" per-say in this setup. This is a Fancy Transformer, that Invokes Electromagnetic Induction more than once!!! This extra Induction is determined by all the same law requirements that we are already aware of. Turns, CSA, Flux (Φ) and the Time Rate of Change of it, spacing of the coils and also the placement of the Magnets.

   Resonance is determined by the total EMF "Generated" in the Coils and the Input Excitation.

   There is also another concept I am not 100% on, is the Wave front interference of the Fields at time t. This is a bit complex because there are many fields and movements of them. Including the PM Fields. As each Coils Current increased in time, as does the Magnetic Field, but not one Magnetic Field, at least Two Magnetic Fields for each Coil, then there is also the Permanent Magnets Magnetic Field, so there could be up to, or more than, Six Syncronous Magnetic Fields at any one time. Each with their own wave fronts, each interacting with each other at any one point in time. This would create Nodes in the Core and is the reason that Placement of the Coils and Magnets are important!!!

   Of course, these wave fronts, are the Magnetic A Vector Potential and the Dynamic Movement of them.

   See below Image: Imagine 6x not 2x

Placement of the Coils/Magnets is easy to solve, design specific requirement is to make sliding Coils and find the best place. I will go into this later on. This comes back to the "Action" "Reaction" and "Counter Reaction" we have spoken about some time back.

Permanent Magnets "Like" to see the Shortest, Symetrical Path, even Paths of the same Permeability, only changed by the Dynamic System attributes mentioned above.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: Why does each Coil have Two fields? Each Coil, because there is Two of them, both carrying Current at the same time, on the same core, each see the others Magnetic Field at the same time.

Am I counting the Same Field twice? No, because the Field is a different distance from the Source, different Flux value (Φ), at different places on the Core (Each Coils Placement) at different Time, t.

P.P.S: This is the MEG, but dated well before the MEG. The MEG is the same device, using the same Operational Characteristics, Closed Path, Closed Core... A true Motionless "Generator"...