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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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tinman

Quote from: EMJunkie on November 27, 2016, 05:13:34 PM


As always, nice work Lostfox!!!

Sorry I have not replied earlier! Been busy, World domination is a big job - Hahaha Just kidding.

Do you know why the Input current goes down under load? I think this is a real important point to understand and see why this works as it does.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Yes,the inductance value increases on the primary when a load is attached.


Brad

Dave45

From one of sir zep.vids, notice the geometric design of the field around the magnet

l0stf0x

Quote from: EMJunkie on November 27, 2016, 05:13:34 PM


As always, nice work Lostfox!!!

Sorry I have not replied earlier! Been busy, World domination is a big job - Hahaha Just kidding.

Do you know why the Input current goes down under load? I think this is a real important point to understand and see why this works as it does.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Hey Chris, Everyone is busy these days :)

About your question..
From my observation and understanding.. I got an idea of what its happening..
Actually to be more accurate, the gain is more when the resistor is less, means sort circuit of POC secondaries = best gain.  <Its true but this is not the only factor :) .. placing the right capacitor/s at secondaries or primaries (tuning of coils) the gain maybe even much better! And that maybe can explain my different gains from transformer to transformer.

But lets see the POC effect..
Current is being directed back to source? or primary inductance is raised so less current required for the same work?", or both? But we don't get so much extra power, we just use less for the same work.! So the magic wing is the poc but the magic happens to primary mostly!

I think the poc combination does an extra "self" oscillation "at the background".. this "free" (this is free energy) extra oscillation not only boost the current at secondary it self, but also raise the inductance at the primary at the battery's eyes because "positive back induction(reversal of BEMF)" happens and extra electrons are trapped in primary making battery's life better. So POC hits back the primary electromagnetically as its being 'another' secondary

sort circuited = Reversed BEMF transmitter fully ON (but can be better if the right cap or load is connected)
load connected = Reversed BEMF transmitter ON or middle state (resistance and inductance depended)
open circuit = Reversed BEMF transmitter OFF

The right sorted coil (or more) or an LC tank can in general do that if you position it correctly.. But POC is "3 in 1".. secondary, sorted coil and BEMF revertor all in one secondary. Its simple as it should be, and its free energy by its nature.

I think for the best results secondary/ies and primary/ies coils need to be tuned to the same wavelength(or dividable) so this "free" transmitting/receiving communication will be at its best. And that probably its the reason for so many different results from transformer to transformer.. Some has great results and others better constructed has worst results.. Some accidentally get close to matched wavelengths or harmonics, some not :)
I haven't complete any testings yet to prove that but I will soon. maybe I am wrong!

..................

I have completed most of the possible combinations with POC transformers design.. No better results from the last ones. The effect is there.. Better construction means better coupling.

So I stopped messing with cores etc and now I am testing the tuning of coils and combining of 2 or more transformers in a single setup.

The last days I am building a setup with two "tuned" transformers, combined with 2 grounds, spark-gaps, caps etc. something similar to Tesla and Don Smith work.

I ll be back :)



EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on November 27, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
Yes,the inductance value increases on the primary when a load is attached.


Brad




Hey Brad - Are you sure? With any increase in Magnetic Field, there should always be a reduction in Inductance... How could simply Loading a Coil increase its inductance? Nothing else has changed, Core Permeability, Turns, Area...

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org



EMJunkie

Quote from: l0stf0x on November 28, 2016, 05:02:31 AM
Hey Chris, Everyone is busy these days :)

About your question..
From my observation and understanding.. I got an idea of what its happening..
Actually to be more accurate, the gain is more when the resistor is less, means sort circuit of POC secondaries = best gain.  <Its true but this is not the only factor :) .. placing the right capacitor/s at secondaries or primaries (tuning of coils) the gain maybe even much better! And that maybe can explain my different gains from transformer to transformer.

But lets see the POC effect..
Current is being directed back to source? or primary inductance is raised so less current required for the same work?", or both? But we don't get so much extra power, we just use less for the same work.! So the magic wing is the poc but the magic happens to primary mostly!

I think the poc combination does an extra "self" oscillation "at the background".. this "free" (this is free energy) extra oscillation not only boost the current at secondary it self, but also raise the inductance at the primary at the battery's eyes because "positive back induction(reversal of BEMF)" happens and extra electrons are trapped in primary making battery's life better. So POC hits back the primary electromagnetically as its being 'another' secondary

sort circuited = Reversed BEMF transmitter fully ON (but can be better if the right cap or load is connected)
load connected = Reversed BEMF transmitter ON or middle state (resistance and inductance depended)
open circuit = Reversed BEMF transmitter OFF

The right sorted coil (or more) or an LC tank can in general do that if you position it correctly.. But POC is "3 in 1".. secondary, sorted coil and BEMF revertor all in one secondary. Its simple as it should be, and its free energy by its nature.

I think for the best results secondary/ies and primary/ies coils need to be tuned to the same wavelength(or dividable) so this "free" transmitting/receiving communication will be at its best. And that probably its the reason for so many different results from transformer to transformer.. Some has great results and others better constructed has worst results.. Some accidentally get close to matched wavelengths or harmonics, some not :)
I haven't complete any testings yet to prove that but I will soon. maybe I am wrong!

..................

I have completed most of the possible combinations with POC transformers design.. No better results from the last ones. The effect is there.. Better construction means better coupling.

So I stopped messing with cores etc and now I am testing the tuning of coils and combining of 2 or more transformers in a single setup.

The last days I am building a setup with two "tuned" transformers, combined with 2 grounds, spark-gaps, caps etc. something similar to Tesla and Don Smith work.

I ll be back :)



A very astute observation indeed!!!

"Actually to be more accurate, the gain is more when the resistor is less, means sort circuit of POC secondaries = best gain." This is exactly right! Lower the Resistance, the more Current Flow, the higher the Magnetic Fields go in Value! Because  Magnetic Field Gauss(B) = Permeability(μ) Turns(N) Current(I)

Walt Rosenthal said:

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The VTA "likes" to always see a minimum load of 25 watts


We are dealing with three Primary Magnetic Fields and Three Secondary Magnetic Fields. Each Primary and Secondary Field from Each Coil. Primary being the Forward Positive, and the Secondary, being Lenz Reflected, field.

Brad is right as you are, the Inductance is pushed backwards, instead of forwards like we normally see. Thus the Input Coil sees less "Load" and the Current drops.


Its all to do, directly, with the Magnetic Fields, its beauty is fantastic! Its simplicity is Breath Taking and yet its the most complicated process I have ever seen. Not something that most will be able to understand withot doing Experiments to see it work.

Exactly: "I think the poc combination does an extra "self" oscillation "at the background".. this "free" (this is free energy) extra oscillation..." My video: Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation should have been a give away for so many, maybe so many just didn't want to see?

This video was published nearly 6  years ago now!!!

Janice Manning and Tom Bearden both quoted Floyd Sweet:

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"On rare occasions, Sweet saw this effect, called self-oscillation, occur in electric transformers"

and

"Sweet was also a transformer designer and expert, and he remarked that he had also observed specialized self-oscillation in certain transformers. "



One has to get the Magnetic Fields of the right value, or this does not work. One has to make sure that each field is of a very close total value.

You do great work, and yes we do get busy these days. Sometimes life takes control and we cant enjoy it, sadly we work for the Machine we have created rather than for ourselves!

I should point out, the total Impedance is changed, not just the Inductance.

    Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org