Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[hyiq]

What the hell has happened here, how has this become a pissing contest overnight?

I normally do not engage in such a contest and won't do now, but i would like to state that i
highly respect guys like Chet K (Ramset) and GotoLuc and many others here for what they have done
all this time and are doing still.

Verpies is in a league on its own and i consider him (like Chet and Luc) a friend who tirelessly
will give out his vast knowledge to rookies (knowledge wise that is) like me, whenever he can.

Thanks all for staying on topic.


Regards Itsu

Yes, for a time yesterday, I did shake my head and the term WTF did pop up.


I know Chet K and Gotoluc are your very close friends Itsu.......


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[hyiq]

Hi Chris,

Have been busy and can reflect to your post (quoted at bottom) to me only now.

When I answered my 3 objections to your measurements, in fact I had gone back to some recent posts of yours and that of Itsu's because the post with your measurements included a post from Itsu.

I found this in your post #7854: "I apologise, typically in an RLC or LC Circuit, when the Circuit goes into resonance, the Inductive Reactance (XL) will equal the Capacitive Reactance (XC). This means that neither XL or XC is dominating in the circuit, and the Phase angle will be 90 Degrees for a Resonant Circuit. See the below diagram."

And the diagram you attached was a series connected RC circuit with impedance, phasor and waveform diagrams:
overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/dlattach/attach/162511/  file name: 2_4_4_6_eng.png 

These diagrams prove what?  They prove how the phase relation between current and voltage in a series RC circuit where phase shift may indeed be near to 90 degree. And you brought this up in connection with resonant RLC or LC circuits where "phase angle will be 90 degree for a resonant circuit". 
While this is an apple and orange comparison, member Itsu also took this the same way what also 'forced' me to answer to you with my objections: he also understood the phase angle between the input current and input voltage for a RLC or LC resonant circuit as he wrote in his reply #7861:
"At resonance (6.2KHz) input current and voltage are exactly "in phase", meaning 0° as it should be in a parallel resonant circuit. Input voltage peaks and input current dips because of the maximum impedance at resonance."
This clearly indicates Itsu did not mean phase shift specifically in the inductor nor specifically in the capacitor current versus the voltage.
(Here I do not mention that Itsu probably did not notice you had referred to the impedance and phasor diagrams of a series RC circuit, for he wrote also in #7861: "i however still am confused as i think you seem to mix up a series LC (see your impedance/Phasor diagram) and a parallel LC (which we have here)."  but this oversight from him is not the point here at all now.)

AND THEN came your post #7865 in which you included your measurements on the phase shift between coil current and input voltage in a parallel LC and phase shift between coil current and coil voltage in a series LC resonant circuit.

Chris, even Itsu was not in the same page with you in these measurements IF you all the time meant the phase shifts mentioned in bold in my previous sentence.
BUT then your sentence I quoted first above from your post 7854 was the first misleading statement (obviously unintentional though) as to how or what you had really meant. You spoke about resonant RLC or LC circuits in which inductive and capacitive reactances are equal (this is correct  at resonance of course) but then you mention the "Phase angle will be 90 degree for a resonant circuit": not clear at all how you meant this then.

So what you answered to my objections: "We are talking specifically about the Voltage Current Relationship inside a RLC or LC Circuit, and not the Power into the Circuit?"  i.e. you meant voltage-current relationship INSIDE a RLC or LC circuit, then it is this #7869 in which you CLEARLY mentioned it, there is no any other posts of yours which defined this 'INSIDE' clearly.

Now please remove your point 4 from your post 7877 where you mention me (with even wrong spelling, sic) as somebody against your honest activity on this forum.  I am against NOBODY's activity or good will here (or whatever), I try to help when I have the time, the mood or am well familiar with something etc. even if somebody is not willing to show his work...

Gyula

Gyula - Itsu did not provide any Input Measurements!!! You keep referencing Itsu's Input Power Measurements!!! You do not understand the Context and comments are there fore invalid.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm6K-3O8rM0


I have a term I use: FFO


I will let you decide on the first F but the rest is Fluoride Overdose


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[hyiq]

Well Chris-no cigar here-i found the error--> 2 incorrect value CVRs is all it took to throw the readings out.
At these small power values, .2 of an ohm can make a big difference.
So,my P/in CVR was .9 ohm's,and the P/out CVR was 1.1 ohms-well as best as my best DMM could make out. Both are banded as 1 ohm.


Brad

Oh Dear Brad - This is terrible news!!!


I guess this means the RT was also measured incorrect also? In all your accuracy procedures, we have a 0.2 Ohm Error...


All my DMM's are good to at least 2 decimal places, some as high as 4 decimal places. Perhaps a quick EBay to get cheap DMM's that have enough precision? Or a very nice little meter like Dog-One has suggested!!!


Or even go to Mouser Electronics and get some 30c Precision Metal Film Resistors? Or some Through Hole Current Shunts, very accurate also...


However, we still have a huge list of others Achievements of all levels:

Thanks Chris
Works exactly as you say. I am shocked at how simple this is.
P

Chris is right. Bucking coil when properly connected have no lenz at all and still gives output.

You can all see that my set-up is fucking Crude or rough. But still I get the effect. I loaded the secondaries and still there is no increment at all in the input wattage.

The whole P.O.Cs is covered by the primary.

You need to separate the charge by applying Vladimir Utkin Circuit which he stated in his PDF document under the title "Switchable Iinductance"

I am now moving away from that circuit to test full bridge and earthing circuit to see if I will able to draw current from the Earth Crust with or without Avramenko Plug.

Frequency to the primary from my mechanical switch was under 30hz

Input voltage to my primary was 90 volt DC.

The output wattage I crease as I increase the frequency. But MY LOAD WHICH IS A DC MOTOR DID NOT AFFECT THE INPUT WATTAGE AT ALL. I REAPEAT AT ALL.

Now time to test Bucking  primary and one secondary as come.

I will also test single strand primary coil over the bucking secondary to see if the output watt will drop or not as I notice using neodymium magnet that current flowing in Multifillar wire mimicks AC zig zag or push pull even if the current is DC.


Thank you Chris, Vladimir Utkin, Marathonman, Hanon, Though and all you other people on over unity.com for your selflessness and sincerity

3 Coils, Load, DC Switching(H-Bridge LC Tank) - Overunity: 5.7


Measured on Tektronix Scope X1 and X2 Clarke Hess Watt Metre (Try telling Clark Hess they have bad equipment, they will serve you!!!)


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3 Coils, Load, DC Switching - Overunity: 1.01


Measured on Tektronix Scope X2


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Hey all, I have build a simple joule thief using bucking coil arrangement that I wound my self.. It looks very productive and I wanted to ask you if this it is "something"! or if its a common result.

Output from secondary coils are passed through a bridge rectifier to have dc for taking measures. (direct from battery VS through the circuit)
The load is 3 leds on a pcb with a BR, few resistors and a mini electr. cap. (Its the head from a hand crank flashlight)
Batery is a 18650

I made some measures..

Direct the load to the battery: 3.70V --- 0.58mA  ---> 0.2146 Watt
Through the circuit:                4.90V --- 93.2mA  ---> 4.5668 Watt

That's 2028% difference..

The loal direct to battery is very very dimmed..
Through the circuit is so bright that you can't see it directly.. near to burn I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPgnKpScGDA

Published on Dec 4, 2015
This difficult to tune circuit really does work. Once folks try to utilize my method of building and tuning, it will make life a lot easier to get one functioning. A magnet is used to change the flux path of the device once it is powered up, and, it seems that once used in a few different areas, the longer it remains powered and the frequency is found per size of the load, a device will need to be used for eacdh large device we utilize without the danger of being charged for that amount. Since this device uses from the uA to the mA range of idle current it is vital to know it can be used for very large loads such as continuous water or fuel pumps, and, many other devices.  Why aren't we building them for power in our homes ?? The coils use minimal idle amperage like wall wort power supplies, but at a much lower amperage. When we add load, the amperage dropped.  The more we add. The lower it goes. This cost me $2.25 worth of ferrite and copper to make.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKfr8bwVhkc

Published on Feb 25, 2015
There is my second video on youtube!
In this one i tried the partnered bucking coil presented by Chris Sykes "EMJunky" on an already made toroidal transformer...
The only thing i would like to add is Thank you Chris!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWzZqw8eLDU

Published on Sep 4, 2015
A little-known "Aharonov-Bohm effect" (1959) is working against the old and known "Lenz's-Law" (1833). The result is an "anti-Lenz" effect.
Soon will be a video: "Anti-Lenz effect - the final version".

Yuri did what I did, and got the same results. It baffels you to see it.
Even worse, is when you try to prove yourself wrong and the results
hold rigid.


Now lets see how bad the pack tears this one up.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[MileHigh]

Are people forgetting that about two years ago that Chris finally presented his schematic
and his test results and there was nothing there?  He measured voltage in one branch of
the circuit and current in another branch of the circuit which doesn't even make sense.

I don't know why Chris is talking about Bloch walls inside of bar magnets again when they
simply don't exist.  I had this debate with Chris two years ago and after about 100 postings
he finally conceded that there is no Blcoh wall inside a bar magnet.

Out of curiosity I went to check out a replicator that Chris is praising, Marc Belanger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPgnKpScGDA

Sorry, I looked at his clip and it is very obvious that he is a beginner that is leading himself down
a garden path.  He also believes that you are "MIB" if you talk tech and disagree with him.

It would be nice if someone did a new test to put this puppy to bed once and for all.  Itsu with
the help of Verpies could do that.

Here is the rational thought experiment:  You are a voltage probe that is inside the clockwise
coil and as you snake your way through the coil you observe increasing voltage.  Then when
you come to the counter-clockwise coil as you continue snaking your way through the coil
you observe decreasing voltage.

i.e.;  a single 50-turn clockwise coil is equivalent to a 75-turn clockwise coil in series with
a 25-turn counter-clockwise coil.   They will both output exactly the same voltage under no load.

If there is a load, then the CW coil has less series resistance than the CW + CCW coil.  Therefore
the 50-turn clockwise coil is more efficient at driving a load than the 75-turn clockwise coil in
series with a 25-turn counter-clockwise coil.  That's all there is to it, it's a no-brainer.  Anything
else is just useless fluff that tries to attribute some "mystical power" to this "partnered output
coils" business that is not there.

[itsu]

As promised, i used a Hall sensor in trying to visualize the magnetic field surrounding the toroid.
My thoughts were that it will be similar as the magnetic field inside the toroid, but seeing the results i am not that sure now.

I expected to see that the max. magnetic fields were at the middle of the 2 coils, however it turns out not to be so as the max. field are
detected at the beginning and ending of the coils.

It could be that the phase shifts which are at the middle of the coils are the cause of this minimum.

Anyway, for what its worth, video here:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgH5rl3TIAM

I added this screenshot below which shows the input power into this circuit when at resonance (red trace/data) to be 156.8mW (current controller was set to 100mA/Div.).

And using the Partzman method for the output:

Pout1 is 192.6mv rms across 1 ohm for (.1926^2)/1 = 37mw and Pout2 is 330.4mv rms across 1 ohm for (.3304^2)/1 = 109mw for a total Pout = 146mw.

I will fiddle around with this setup / frequency to see if it can be improved upon


Itsu