Wheel vs. lever...

[iacob alex]

...creatures,animals,human beings is a far away,general viewing regarding the change of place,movement on our Earth.The inverted pendulum on a surface,flapping motion in the air,undulating pendulum in the water.During walking,the inverted pendulum equivalent of our mass-body ,moves like a kind  of a "sectorial wheel":with each step cicle,beteen two gravitational levels,some of the gravitational potential is converted into kinetic energy ,and then back.It's a walking pendulum .Energy transfer in a gravity environment is made in a pendular manner.Can it be a suggestion for our topic,in this "wheel vs. lever" dilemma?All the Bests!/Alex

[iacob alex]

...tools,devices,vehicles,gadgets can utilize ways and means to transfer a natural point of view regarding energy and transport(swinging,oscillating,wavering,unsteady,undulating  so many aspects,faces,properties of the same physical pendulum) to our understanding and use,applicability,serviceability and benefits.Try to think and see the inside pendular "skeleton design" of the world around you, at so many beings and things.As simple as possible can be a basis ,a groundwork to set up,build,assembly  our knowledge and mechanisms regarding the topic at this forum section.Considering  the choise(my dilemma...) "wheel vs.lever",my option is lever(counter-pendulum,Roman balance or steelyard slightly modified,bended).All the Bests!/Alex

[iacob alex]

...if we "remake"  the Poggendorf's classic lab-experience(and apparatus...):lever instead an Atwood machine.So,we will have a great lever with a fixed (2M+m) mass at one end ,and with a small free pivoting /rotating lever at the other end(as a replacement for the Atwood machine),loaded with the same (2M+m) mass.Usually this arrangement is stable.But ,supposing that we set the two diametrally positionated masses on the small lever,as (M+m) in the top position/(M) in the bottom position,we determine an unstable state not only for the small lever(let's say on the left arm of the great lever) ,but for both.So,the left arm of the great lever(supporting the pendular motion of the small lever),will move up.The system becomes accelerated due to gravity: a double fall chargeable to the same linear "g" ,this time variable acceleration ,owing to torque.Can this case generate a question "family of IF..." regarding our topic?Maybe.All the Bests!/Alex

[iacob alex]

Hi !  It can be a point  that, this forum takes into account the real success of Prof.Veljko Milkovic.This news, for a time, is old for people that have in mind a lever,not a wheel,as a possible "key" for "harvesting" gravity flow on an inertial frame("scenery"):this two stage mechanical oscillator, was presented and won a gold premium during the 2002 fair in Novi Sad(patented in 2001).Tesla was from the one and only country...The problem is that ,anyone can "fit" a lever and a pendulum in the same way,to "remake"  this "excess" energy device.The next step,you guess is a feedback...but ,in a final ,I bet:this will not be a "wheel",but a pendular lever  with a  store-restore energy system.The most important fact is that Prof.Milkovic ,with this "key" opens a wide vision regarding the interplay of action-reaction phenomena in mechanics, that of nonlinearity.The action has a so large meaning;you can "beat"/force or you can "sing"/oscillate a medium(air...),including inertia.Let's say that I am a dreamer,only.All the Bests!/Alex

[supersam]

Alex,

WHAT A CONCEPT!!!!

I ONLY HAVE ONE WORD TO SAY,  FUCKINFANTASTIC!!!!

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sam