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Skycollection's "Pentafilar Pancake" inductively coupled "Overunity Potential".

Started by synchro1, February 24, 2015, 04:12:38 PM

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conradelektro

Quote from: skycollection on December 22, 2015, 07:25:58 AM
I think it's worth making a new video with the correct measurements of each group of pancake coils with a resistance of 1K

Would be interesting and your viewers will be able to see the result and whether you did the measurement correctly.

You motor-generators are nice to look at and good measurements will make them interesting as well.

Greetings, Conrad

skycollection

Conrad, i have new data: I move the potentiometer to the breakeven.... i measure in the next way:
GROUP 1- TO THE CIRCUIT
GROUP 2= 8.7
GROUP 3= 8.3
GROUP 4= 8.6
GROUP 5= 8.5
GROUP 6= 8.6
I found a problem to measure each coil, i need to connect at least two LED bulbs for the circuit enter in self  oscillation, any way i can measure three groups at the same time.
THE INPUT CHANGE TO: 13.57 VOLTS X 0.15 = 2.03 WATTS

conradelektro

Quote from: skycollection on December 22, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
Conrad, i have new data: I move the potentiometer to the breakeven.... i measure in the next way:
GROUP 1- TO THE CIRCUIT
GROUP 2= 8.7
GROUP 3= 8.3
GROUP 4= 8.6
GROUP 5= 8.5
GROUP 6= 8.6
I found a problem to measure each coil, i need to connect at least two LED bulbs for the circuit enter in self  oscillation, any way i can measure three groups at the same time.
THE INPUT CHANGE TO: 13.57 VOLTS X 0.15 = 2.03 WATTS

Let's take 8.7 Volt as the measurement (the higher the better) and the result for the output is:

- each coil puts out (at most) (8.7/1000)*8.7 = 0.076 Watt

- five coils together put out (at most) 5 * 0.076 =  0.38 Watt

- and as you measured, the input is about 2 Watt


I can not really explain the self resonance problem. There is a difference between a resistor and a LED:

- a resistor lets the current through, independent of Voltage; Voltage over the resistor will rise and fall like a sinus curve

- a LED needs about 1.8 Volt to become conductive (or even 3 Volt to have little resistance); therefore the Voltage over the LED will rise sharply till it reaches 1.8 Volt, it will then rise slowly to about 3 Volt and then it will decline also rather fast; the Voltage over the LED will not be a nice sinus curve, more like spikes; this might help self resonance (but this is just a speculation)

You could see that with an oscilloscope.


You could measure the AC Voltage over the LED lamp. It will be about 2 Volt or even less, may be 1.5 Volt (true RMS). This measurement over the LED lamp is just for fun and can not be used easily for a power calculation, because the resistance of the LED lamp is variable (and not constant like for the 1K resistor. Therefore I told you to use a resistor instead of the LED lamp for power measurement.)

The AC Voltage measurement over the LED lamp can also show whether the LEDs on the lamp are connected in series or in parallel. The measured AC Voltage would be higher if for instance there are six groups of three LEDs in series.


May be you can spin a stronger rotor magnet on top of the coil to make self resonance more easy. Or you could change the stand for the rotor magnet in a way to place the rotor magnet closer to the top of the coil. It looks like you could flip the rotor magnet by 180° (so that the round acrylic plate is on top), which will place the rotor magnet closer to the top of the coil (because the round acrylic plate is not longer between the rotor magnet and the top of the coil). The rotor magnet might not be stable in this position, but you could hold it down with your hand.


Would be nice to see a video of your measurements, if it is not too much trouble and work for you.

Greetings, Conrad

skycollection

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