Magnetic Engine Video

[vineet_kiran]

TK:

I think you should post a link here to your SNOT track video which shows the ball going around...and around...and around...the track.

Bill

In his SNOT device, he is using 'spring action' of the magnet and ball is moving out of magnet.  Obviously the ball experiences dragging force (slowing down force) from the magnet when it tries to move out of magnet influence area.

TK is just showing his over-intelligence in that experiment.

When I was studying in school, my teacher used to tell me 'normal intelligents are wise people, over-intelligents are fools.

[Pirate88179]

In his SNOT device, he is using 'spring action' of the magnet and ball is moving out of magnet.  Obviously the ball experiences dragging force (slowing down force) from the magnet when it tries to move out of magnet influence area.

TK is just showing his over-intelligence in that experiment.

When I was studying in school, my teacher used to tell me 'normal intelligents are wise people, over-intelligents are fools.

Well, that is interesting.  That is not what I got out of watching his video.

Bill

PS  Over intelligence?  Is that even real?  Is that like saying a woman is too pretty?  Or, a sandwich tastes too good?  Or, someone knows too much?  Your teacher was an idiot.

Bill

[vineet_kiran]

Well, that is interesting.  That is not what I got out of watching his video.

Bill

PS  Over intelligence?  Is that even real?  Is that like saying a woman is too pretty?  Or, a sandwich tastes too good?  Or, someone knows too much?  Your teacher was an idiot.

Bill

Somewhere, TK himself has said that it is due to spring action. It is difficult for me to find that reply now.

I don't think my teacher was an idiot because he had given an example also.

A king walks on the road barefoot and a thorn pricks his foot somewhere on the road.  Next time when he walks on the road he wears shoes for protecting his foot from thorns.  -  He is a intelligent person with wise act.

A king walks on the road barefoot and a thorn pricks his foot somewhere on the road.  Next time before he walks on the road he orders his men to cover the entire city with rubber mat to protect his foot from  thorns.  - He is a over-intelligent with a foolish act.

But both actions will save the foot from thorns!!!

[Pirate88179]

Somewhere, TK himself has said that it is due to spring action. It is difficult for me to find that reply now.

I don't think my teacher was an idiot because he had given an example also.

A king walks on the road barefoot and a thorn pricks his foot somewhere on the road.  Next time when he walks on the road he wears shoes for protecting his foot from thorns.  -  He is a intelligent person with wise act.

A king walks on the road barefoot and a thorn pricks his foot somewhere on the road.  Next time before he walks on the road he orders his men to cover the entire city with rubber mat to protect his foot from  thorns.  - He is a over-intelligent with a foolish act.

But both actions will save the foot from thorns!!!

Well, I agree that the 2nd King was foolish, but I would never even think of calling him over intelligent.  Something may be lost in translation here but TK would have been the King that put his shoes on.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

"Spring action"? Please keep looking, I'd like to see the exact comment you mean.

You are wrong about the SNOT device, too. I know precisely how much KE the ball has as it speeds around the track and I can position magnets, gates, shields, or any other mechanism or arrangement near the ball and thus tell immediately whether that addition adds to, or subtracts from the KE of the ball, and by how much. I know precisely how much energy is dissipated and at what rate (power) as the ball goes around the track. This means I know exactly how much energy has to be supplied to the ball during each cycle to make it keep moving.  Show me some other person's experimental testbed that allows that kind of actual measurement precision. Go ahead and build a similar apparatus to test your own system, Vineet, where your hands do not get involved in pushing things around. You will soon see that I am correct in what I state about your system.

The point about the eddy current braking or damping is that it is a _loss mechanism_. So is the inevitable friction of the shield with the rolling ball. So you have at least two loss mechanisms operating in the shield system that you have presented. There is no corresponding input of energy to overcome these loss mechanisms, except your hand powering the motion of the shield. Remove that source of external power and your pendulum will quickly come to a stop, because you cannot remove the loss mechanisms.

You think I'm "over-intelligent"? If that means I'm intelligent enough to analyze this simple device and tell you why it cannot possibly work, fine. If it means I actually build and test _quantitatively_ devices that I talk about... fine. If it means that I am able to avoid wasting my time on dead-end devices that are obviously powered by Mister Hand... that's good too. Take my "over-intelligent" advice: go ahead and build a system that doesn't require your hand for power input, and make some real measurements on it. Then let's see whose foot gets pricked by thorns.