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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic Engine Video

Started by vineet_kiran, March 07, 2015, 07:57:05 AM

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Quote from: shylo on March 28, 2015, 04:16:27 AM
Can a magnet of a given weight ,if dropped from a given height not preform work?
All the mag tracks I looked at don't go high enough.
Go up the ramp , drop out at the top, as going back down to the start travel past generating coils to produce power?
artv
The potential energy in an object is known by its mass, and altitude.
A magnet or not: If mass is 1kg, and you want to drop it 1 meter, the equation goes this.


E=m*h*g
E=1m*1kg*9,81N/kg=9,81Joule


So if you have a pendulum with a mass, the kinetic energy of that mass corresponds to the flucuation (angular displacement) and radius to the hub.
Say the pendulum fluctuate 45 degrees to each side and the legth of the rod between mass and hub is 1 meter, and the mass is 1 kg.
E max = m*L*sino*g
E max = 1kg*1m*sin 45o*9,81N/kg = 6,94Joule


Angular velocity at the bottom is:
V=(2*g*sino*L)1/2
V=(2*9.81*sin 45o*1m)1/2=3,72m/s


If a 1kg magnet dropped one meter is passing a coil, the maximum energy you can harvest from the coil is in theory 9,81Joule.
However, the potential energy in the magnets mass will determine the energy you can harvest, and how efficient the pick up coil is made, and how efficient the energy transferes from the magnet into the coil.


Vidar

shylo

Thanks Vidar, So if I get it to loop, that will be considered OU since there is no required input.
Also if it loops ,perpetual motion.
artv

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Quote from: shylo on March 28, 2015, 06:56:09 AM
Thanks Vidar, So if I get it to loop, that will be considered OU since there is no required input.
Also if it loops ,perpetual motion.
artv
Those equations applies to ideal non-frictional mechanism only. Friction will not allow things to selfsustain, or run perpetually.
If you apply more energy than required to complete one loop, it will, depending on friction, continue a couple of loops, but eventually stop. Not applying energy means only that the device that has no energy input will not have stored potential energy to use in order to start moving and empty that potential to do work.
Like a capacitor or a battery that is "flat". If you don't apply energy into it, it will not charge.
However, most batteries are made of chemical elements that react with each other. Appearently these batteries "self charge" after you have emtying them. But that happens only because there is a chemical process still going on in them.


General science that is used to makes things work, are relying on principles that nothing is OU. And devices made that way behave just as predicted if the math is done right in advance. If it was possible to achieve OU, then nothing would be predictable, and the worlds industries would collapse or run out of control. It would be impossible to calculate anything, becuse you would apply a factor in the equations that does not exist. How would you sort that puzzle out? You can't.


Honestly, you can forget everything about perpetual motion and OU. It does not exist. Whatever happened at the time of The Big Bang caused this universe to obey the physical laws we all know so well. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction - proven a trillion times. OU has not one single proof of existence.


Vidar

shylo

There is lots of friction, and it is causing problems. But the strength of the magnet can over take it, with the right layering of steel.
I don't have any form of input other than placing the magnet at the entrance of the track, where it gets drawn in by magnetism.
artv

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Quote from: shylo on March 28, 2015, 09:37:53 PM
There is lots of friction, and it is causing problems. But the strength of the magnet can over take it, with the right layering of steel.
I don't have any form of input other than placing the magnet at the entrance of the track, where it gets drawn in by magnetism.
artv
No, you can't. Steel is magnetic and will have influence on the magnets behaviour. You're putting steel there because you want to change the magnetic behaviour, but that also mean that the magnet is just as influenced by the steel as the steel is influenced by the magnet.
There is NO WAY you can make this work. No chance. Your best result will be unity - a selfsustaining device that is useless the moment you try to harvest energy from it.


Vidar