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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnetic Shielding

Started by CLaNZeR, October 03, 2006, 06:16:00 AM

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CLaNZeR

Well I do not know if we need to go that far.
It probably does well in shielding interference if you wrapped a cable in it but for what I want to use it for, a waste of time !!!!!

Show me a shield that can be layed on top of a magnetic pole, whatever shape, that will divert the field back around to the opposing pole, with the external side not effected by the field, then I will get excited, but I have not so far seen this claim and trying other materials that may do the job on fluke as such!!.

Regards

Sean.

Quote from: djancak on November 04, 2006, 04:08:02 PM
Thanks for the warning. I think perhaps you should post this warning in the "fraudulent offers" section of the forum too.

Quote from: CLaNZeR on November 04, 2006, 03:44:43 PM
Just to let you know.

The material arrived, cost a fortune, delivery from USA to UK was more than the material, Customs hammer you a extra 17.5% and at the end of the day you get a roll of 1 inch tin foil that seems to have as much magnetic shielding as a piece of paper LOL

They state in the instructions that you can even wrap your magnets in it, why??? it makes no difference !!!

Do not waste your money, I have played with this material all week, from making a sandwich to keep the air space in the equation to wrapping a whole coil in the stuff.
I see no shielding here of magnetic fields at all, maybe ideal for distant shielding of speakers etc etc but as far as trying to divert the magnetic field to weaken it, a waste of time.

Well you learn and onto the next experiment!

Regards

Sean.


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Liberty

I see you all are talking about magnetic shielding. 
Shielding and total flux shorting are two different things.
I have found that if you use netic instead of conetic, it works better with near direct magnet contact.  When you shield a magnet, you do not want the shield to touch the magnet.  Layers that are separated work better at shielding magnetic field than one thicker layer.  If your goal is to conduct flux from a magnet to short it out, a thick piece will be needed.  However, the thicker that you get the netic, the more difficult it is to shape it.  I would suggest that you ask the company that you order it from what the thickest sheet is that you can get, while still being able to shape it.  One layer will not completely shield a magnetic field if you use neodymium magnets.  Multiple layers will reduce it, kind of like using insulation to insulate a building.  The higher the R-factor, the more it will insulate. 

Netic will rust if kept in a humid area.  It comes slightly oiled and is messy to deal with.  I would suggest that when you get it the way you want it, clean it off and use clear coat laquer or something like that to keep the air from rusting it.

Just a few tips.  Hope it helps.
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

mbell

I am not sure if this is what you are looking for but I have taken the magnets and the magnet shielding out of a computer hard drive and it seems to do pretty good job of at least shielding the magnetic force. The magnet will always attract to the shielding but beyond the shielding there is no attraction or repulsion.

Mike

CLaNZeR

Many thanks for the tips Liberty, well appreciated.

I have tried many different configs with this material this week, inlcuding sandwiching it between layers of different material from wood to vinyl. Various spacing from the magnets etc etc.

If I am honest I do not see any difference, so will leave it on the back burner and move onto the next thing onthe ToDo list !!

Regards

Sean.


Quote from: Liberty on November 04, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
I see you all are talking about magnetic shielding. 
Shielding and total flux shorting are two different things.
I have found that if you use netic instead of conetic, it works better with near direct magnet contact.  When you shield a magnet, you do not want the shield to touch the magnet.  Layers that are separated work better at shielding magnetic field than one thicker layer.  If your goal is to conduct flux from a magnet to short it out, a thick piece will be needed.  However, the thicker that you get the netic, the more difficult it is to shape it.  I would suggest that you ask the company that you order it from what the thickest sheet is that you can get, while still being able to shape it.  One layer will not completely shield a magnetic field if you use neodymium magnets.  Multiple layers will reduce it, kind of like using insulation to insulate a building.  The higher the R-factor, the more it will insulate. 

Netic will rust if kept in a humid area.  It comes slightly oiled and is messy to deal with.  I would suggest that when you get it the way you want it, clean it off and use clear coat laquer or something like that to keep the air from rusting it.

Just a few tips.  Hope it helps.

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CLaNZeR

Hi Mike

I read this in a previous post and it got me interested.
In the previous post they were saying that this shield was found in the old 5.25 Drives rather than the modern 3.5" drives that I have plenty of laying around.
What drive did you pull this out of?

Also I would be interested in knowing how easy the material can be pulled away from a magnet when sliding it rather than pulling?
Also if you form a air gap between this material and the magnet, does it still shield?

Where abouts on the Hard Drive is this material used?

Regards

Sean.

Quote from: mbell on November 04, 2006, 04:39:47 PM
I am not sure if this is what you are looking for but I have taken the magnets and the magnet shielding out of a computer hard drive and it seems to do pretty good job of at least shielding the magnetic force. The magnet will always attract to the shielding but beyond the shielding there is no attraction or repulsion.

Mike
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