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Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.

Started by ramset, April 26, 2015, 09:52:03 AM

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profitis

Come I'm gona coat these wit sometin and change the color of that liquid

rakarskiy

A bit interesting information on topic.
Question: Are the authors of ROCHE (a method of producing torque in a conveyor with air containers in a water tower) the first? A little information where the legs of this idea grow from, a possible source.
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Patent RU2059110 [application: 1989-09-27; the publication of the patent: 27.04.1996]
A method of extracting energy stored in a liquid and gas and converting it into mechanical work.
Author: Markelov Vasily Fateevich
Devices for the production of mechanical energy, not classified elsewhere or using energy sources not classified elsewhere.

Quotethe invention relates to methods for converting the pressure energy of a gas and the thermal energy of a liquid into mechanical and electrical energy and can be used, for example, in hydro - and heat power engineering for heat recovery of liquid media. Summary of the invention: compressed compressor gas is fed under the floats-buckets immersed in a liquid supplied from the discharge water channel TPP or bypass channel rivers. Floats-buckets with gas float under the influence of the force of Archimedes, while the liquid transmits its heat to the expanding gas. The movement of the bucket floats is converted by the transmission into the rotation of the shaft of the electric generator. The gas compression compressor is cooled by a liquid flow passing through the bucket pneumatic-hydraulic motor between its lower and upper parts.

Fig.1 Fig.2 Fig.3 Fig.4


QuoteCLAIM
1. METHOD of EXTRACTION STORED IN LIQUID AND GAS ENERGY AND CONVERT IT INTO MECHANICAL WORK by the compression of the gas compressor and feeding it under the floats, buckets, immersed in a fluid filling capacity of the bucket pneumohydrodrives, move the floats-buckets up under the action of positive force of buoyancy with the expansion of gas as you ascend to full fill the gas floats-buckets with heat transfer from the fluid of the expanding gas, movement of the floats with buckets associated with them endless transmission, rotation of the rotor transmission of the generator of electric energy and the release of gas floats buckets when they are inverted, characterized in that the effective volume of compressed gas is changed in accordance with the ratio

a method for extracting stored energy in a liquid and gas and converting it into mechanical work, patent No. 2059110
FORMULA
where VD - is the effective volume of compressed gas;
Vо - the volume of compressed gas at an absolute pressure of;
P - coefficient of pressure increase depending on the height of the liquid column;
t  - temperature of the fluid ;

t1  - temperature of the gas operating system.
2. The method according to claim 1, characterized in that the gas compression compressor is cooled by a liquid flow passing through the bucket pneumatic hydraulic motor between its lower and upper parts.
3. A method according to claim 1, characterized in that the liquid in the receptacle bucket pneumohydrodrives is fed from the discharge channel of a thermal power plant or a bypass channel of the rivers, and the liberation of floats-buckets from the gas produced below the liquid level in the tank.
4. The method according to claim 1, characterized in that the liquid in the lower part of the bucket tank pneumohydrodrive is fed from the reservoir HPP pipeline passing through the dam of newly constructed or siphon in the reconstructed HPP, and from the upper part of the tank pneumohydrodrive, located at the water level in the reservoir, the water is fed to the

I did not notice, though someone paid attention to the temperature-it is fundamental.
There is another point that can probably be applied in the design. Creating a vacuum (ZERO atmosphere) at the top of the water chamber.
Follow the rules. a hundred implosions, always stronger than an explosion.

Personally my opinion such registration all the same will not give super result which declare and build power plants in this company.

This author has another Patent RU2376494 "double-hull pneumohydraulic turbine"
[publication of the patent: 20.12.2009] Two-body pneumatic-hydraulic turbine belongs to the field of energy.
QuoteThe turbine comprises a cylindrical body with impellers placed in it on a vertical shaft. The housing is open at the top and closed at the bottom, filled with water and connected to a compressed air source. Below the impellers and between them on the wall of the housing are fixed guide devices. The housing on the lower and upper level is connected by rectangular cross-section flow pipes to another similar housing. The device does not require a high-level tank.The invention relates to energy and can be used to provide energy consumers through the repeated use of forces in the manifestation of natural imbalances between water and air (density, heat capacity, thermal conductivity).
Fig.1

http://www.freepatent.ru/images/patents/87/2376494/patent-2376494.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvnVBdqLsvQ - video by the author from 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1AijqP-OAA - replication of this turbine in Ukraine in 2015.

As I understand it, the first patent is no longer valid (demonstration is safe), the second with the copyright in force.

I do not draw any conclusions fundamentally. This is my assumption that these settings are very skillfully hide the real situation. So the same can apply to works of Schauberger.   
All good


E_man

Quote from: rakarskiy on October 23, 2019, 06:00:15 AM

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I did not notice, though someone paid attention to the temperature-it is fundamental.
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Rakarskiy, You ara absolutely right!
There is mein "Meisterstück" in izoterm compression and izoterm expansion.
With izoterm compression we are extracting energy from compressed air to the water and this is a magic source of energy.
Compressed air traveling in buoyancy power plant is expanding (and cooling) and takes back this energy from water.
Nothing mystic, pure thermodynamic.

kolbacict

QuoteI did not notice, though someone paid attention to the temperature-it is fundamental.
Well, this has long been discussed on the skif.biz  :)

Magluvin

Quote from: profitis on November 15, 2017, 06:41:30 AM
Come I'm gona coat these wit sometin and change the color of that liquid
Nice concept.  Remember, the air pressure needs to be enough to overcome the weighted pressure of the water in the tank. So the energy it takes to do that needs to be compared to the output of the mech.

Mags