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How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW

Started by hartiberlin, May 05, 2015, 10:41:49 PM

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lumen

Quote from: memoryman on July 31, 2015, 01:22:31 PM
There is no -10 psi; the best vacuum is 0 psi.
"If you look back I thought it may be better to pump out the water and let air flow in since pumping water is much more efficient." how so? either way you have to displace the same volume of water.

-10 psi is simply quibbling, it depends on your point of reference. Since atmospheric pressure varies around 14.7 psi and most pressure gauges are set to zero at this pressure, the most you could get would be -14.7 psi.

Pumping water is much more efficient because it does not compress like air. A cylinder with a volume of 1 liter could compress air and purge very little water from the float, but the same cylinder could pump 1 liter water from the float in a single stroke.

Now we can see that this is the loop!

The inefficiency of compressing air allows some loss to be recovered but the work done after recovery could only be the same as directly pumping the water out which would be much more efficient but still be under unity.


memoryman

Since 0 psi denotes an absolute vacuum, it makes no sense to talk about -psi.
The whole bouyancy idea as a net energy producer is defective; whether it is 25% or 95% efficient is not the point, since the KPP is presented as an OU device.

MarkE

Quote from: memoryman on July 31, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
Since 0 psi denotes an absolute vacuum, it makes no sense to talk about -psi.
The whole bouyancy idea as a net energy producer is defective; whether it is 25% or 95% efficient is not the point, since the KPP is presented as an OU device.
Lumen is being a little bit sloppy by omitting the term "gage".  He means gage pressure which can go to -1 ATM.

As far as the KPD (Kinetic Power Dissipator) goes, you are of course correct.  There is no arrangement of the elements that yields even a large fraction of the electrical input energy to the compressor as output mechanical work from the water column contraption.

Pirate88179

Quote from: seychelles on July 31, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
well good luck to a brilliant fake in broad day light just like 911..
and the Apollo 11 moon landing and the bumble bee..

I hope that you are not serious here.  IF you are, then you are really insulting thousands of brilliant engineers and hard working technicians that made the moon landings possible.  I feel very sorry for you if you believe that one of the greatest endeavors of mankind was faked.  It was totally true I can assure you, despite what you might have read on the internet or have heard from some wack job college professor.

Also, the bumble bee does indeed fly, as you might be aware, and, it adheres to all known aerodynamic principles.  What you are quoting here is just another internet myth repeated by uneducated idiots.

No educated person will ever take you seriously when you post crap like this.  It labels you.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

lumen

Quote from: memoryman on July 31, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
Since 0 psi denotes an absolute vacuum, it makes no sense to talk about -psi.

I always thought I was living in a vacuum and now that I am holding this brand new pressure gauge in my hand and see it is reading zero I finally have proof!