Steorn Debut's forever Battery at Slattery's

[minnie]

  Stefan,
           what do you say to this? If there is no BEMF the basis of physics must be
wrong somewhere.
                      John

[syairchairun]

I think It's A Joule thief..but many selenoid for generating self induction..transistor,ic,batry,selenoid,and cpctor.

[Red_Sunset]

  Stefan,
           what do you say to this? If there is no BEMF the basis of physics must be
wrong somewhere.
                      John

Nothing to worry about, John.   Just a typical case of nitpicking, physics rules are still intact !
Stefan is looking from a PRACTICAL viewpoint
Mark is looking at it from a ABSOLUTE viewpoint

Stefan & Mark are both correct, just depends what you allow as your descriptive tolerance between the lines.

Red_Sunset

[tinman]

Stefan, actually I do understand, and there is plenty of generator effect.  The BEMF "constant" is variable in the device demonstrated at Waterways.  As the rotor magnet approaches the toroid core, the core winding is powered so that it ultimately saturates as the PM makes its pass by.  The work required to saturate the core is influenced by that moving coil:  IE the PM induces in the toroid just like any other motor.  However, the time when this occurs is dominately the power on phase of the toroid winding.  The BEMF alters the timing from what it would be without the rotor approaching the toroid.  When the battery manages to saturate the toroid, it reduces the inductance and BEMF constant by multiple orders of magnitude.  With the right instrumentation set-up the BEMF can still be measured even when the core is saturated.

Would not the current also be very high without BEMF?,as BEMF is the voltage that apposes the applied voltage. I mean,we do have induction within the toriod's,so there must be BEMF. BEMF is what reduces the current draw within inductor's,so no BEMF = higher current draw,as the voltage across the inductor would be higher.

Now,what we need is a higher BEMF than the applied voltage-->would that mean we have a negative resistance?.

[profitis]

The doughnuts have no north or south poles thus where are you going to get your back-emfs.nowhere.