Permanent magnet motor

[ayeaye]

AlienGrey, well yeah, different waves. But how can something act as a wave, and also as a particle? The matter is, there is something more general than a wave, propagation of a process. Wave is only a special case of it.

But these things should be discussed somewhere else, this thread should be about general theory of a permanent magnet motor. But all things come together, yes. This is all about the same field, electromagnetic, or should one say electric, electrostatic is like only about a static part of it.

[ayeaye]

Jim36, did your magnets with circular field arrive? Cannot wait...

Also, there seems to be something extraordinary in the Faraday's homopolar motor. The current there has to create magnetic field only once, and then nothing seems to work against that current, the strength of the magnetic field doesn't change. So it looks like that the only energy used is that necessary for creating a magnetic field once. Plus that lost in the wire as a heat, but what if such thing is made using a superconductor? In that one made with a battery, there is a terrible waste of energy, all is lost just to maintain current, with otherwise maybe nothing decreasing it. Just thoughts.

TechStuf, no, it doesn't mean that god created us, what an ignorant conclusion of otherwise so brilliant thinking. It means something else, that it is not about these randomly moving particles, or then molecules. It is about something else which they have not considered, developing of a network. Well god then, what one calls god. Whatever it is one may call god, we, and all the nature, are part of it. Now say god doesn't exist, what doesn't exist then, we, or nature, or reality, nothing exists? Talking about god as an abstract concept, not even defined, but causes a lot of damage to our brain, because god means something for many people. Which is not the same as god of any religion, not necessarily the same, not every way the same. What humans have been told different from ayeaye's, well, that ayeaye thing is a joke. That is meant to deliberately hide something. Ayeayes come from a different place, where are no dimensions, or not dimensions the same way as they are here, it is difficult to describe it, and impossible to draw on a 2D picture. Anyway, one cannot hide things from ayeaye's, the same one can hide them from humans. Because ayeaye's thinking is inherently different. Well, as i said, what i'm talking about ayeaye's is a joke. But there have to be jokes too.

But even these randomly moving particles, they have not properly simulated these either. Consider simulating these moving dots, each of which can only attract the others. What a complex things can come out of it. Now consider that these can both attract and repulse each other. And they are all moving. This is exponentially more complex.

[Jim36]

Hi Ayeaye,

I'm still waiting for the delivery of them, it could be another 10-20 days yet. The homopolar motor is unique by the way the stator field and rotor are always at the same position relative to each other. I'm not sure what you mean by 'The current there has to create magnetic field only once', do you mean just a pulse? I would think that the current would need to be sustained to overcome friction.

Jim

[ayeaye]

I would think that the current would need to be sustained to overcome friction.

No, the friction weirdly does not seem to decrease the current, in any way.

[ayeaye]

Jim36,

When you get these magnets, you may try something like that below. You may not believe, but this bent wire stays quite well in balance. It stays because of the weights on it. Fix with a mounting tape, should hold well, but of course i don't know the size of your magnets. What i put on that stator magnet, just happened to be a film container. The film container's lid also just happens to have a small concavity in the center, so it will not move anywhere, but it should work even without that. Just maybe it may help, maybe may give you some idea.

Why there is not much friction when the wire is bent that way, is that then the shape where it touches the surface, is almost spherical.