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[Hoppy]

I see a lot of energy put into silly ideas like nano-thermite, and dustifying space beams that does absoutely nothing to marshal against the infinite wars abroad, the decimation of the Constitution at home, the prospect that a two very chummy family dynasty will have run the country for 28 out of 36 years, or that the too big to fail financial institutions that are being subsidized to the tune of nearly $400 billion per year, have not only not been reformed, are taking bigger risks than ever.  These are all huge crimes in progress.

Some silly ideas have changed the world and will continue to do so. Much explosive energy was released on 9/11 and in reaction continues to be released in human emotion. The truth is now staring many of us in the face!

[Red_Sunset]

I see a lot of energy put into silly ideas like nano-thermite, and dustifying space beams that does absoutely nothing to marshal against the infinite wars abroad, the decimation of the Constitution at home, the prospect that a two very chummy family dynasty will have run the country for 28 out of 36 years, or that the too big to fail financial institutions that are being subsidized to the tune of nearly $400 billion per year, have not only not been reformed, are taking bigger risks than ever.  These are all huge crimes in progress.

Mark,
Just your take on 911, 
In your view, if you exclude termite, why was there no core column remaining after the collapse of the outer floors in a pancake ?
Decimation of the constitution & wars abroad.>>  If only a few are prepared to defend the constitution and the rest is only prepared to bitch and not use their brains. when they hear the propaganda that is carefully orchestrated by powers that be. A natural result.
In addition to what is in progress, bigger and more shocking crimes can be expected in the near future.
The tube was forecasting today, an expected dead toll by police shooting of over 1000 in USA by the end of the year at the current killing rate.  I wonder if it is the result of the wild West training in Bagdad?
Red

[Pirate88179]

Mark,
Just your take on 911, 
In your view, if you exclude termite, why was there no core column remaining after the collapse of the outer floors in a pancake ?
Decimation of the constitution & wars abroad.>>  If only a few are prepared to defend the constitution and the rest is only prepared to bitch and not use their brains. when they hear the propaganda that is carefully orchestrated by powers that be. A natural result.
In addition to what is in progress, bigger and more shocking crimes can be expected in the near future.
The tube was forecasting today, an expected dead toll by police shooting of over 1000 in USA by the end of the year at the current killing rate.  I wonder if it is the result of the wild West training in Bagdad?
Red

Red:

My understanding was that the twin towers were constructed of an exoskeleton...meaning, the main supports were on the outside of the building and the floors were connected to the outside framework.  One of the after action reports showed that the building contractor used inferior bolts (which were cheaper) to attach the floor beams to the framework.  The heat weakened these bolts and, once the upper floors collapsed, the pancake was the result.  I am not a building engineer so I can not speak to how true this is but, if true, it makes sense.

As far as deaths caused by police, I think your numbers are off.  (I read that it was 60) Even if they are not, have you ever been to any of the areas these guys have to work in?  If you are a cop, and 3 guys run at you and go for their guns, you have to defend yourself.  It is that simple.  Out of the millions and millions of folks protected by the cops, even your number, which I still think is pretty high, is not that bad.

Are all cops good?  Hell no.  Just watch some youtube videos and you can see that there are some that should not be on the force.  Of course, some of those videos are guys trying to bait the cops so they can make a video but still, most of them are just trying to do their job and go home alive.

Try going to Baltimore and walk around at night.  If you are white, you will be attacked by someone.  Heck, even if you are black, you will still get attacked.  The high (record high) murder rate in Baltimore has only happened since the Feds ordered the cops to stop doing patrols and only answer calls from citizens.  Then, and I love this, the mayor blames the cops for not doing their job yet it was the Justice department that ordered no more neighborhood patrols.  It was the Mayor and the State attorney that called in the Feds.  Totally stupid.

My brother lives there and I would not even think of visiting him without being armed.  It is like a war zone as are so many of our inner city locations.
He is afraid to leave his house as innocent folks are being targeted by gang members.  60 murders last month alone.  Look at Chicago...same thing...LA, NY City, etc.  I would not want to be a cop in this day and age.  You do your job and then get charged with murder...nice.

Bill

[MarkE]

Some silly ideas have changed the world and will continue to do so. Much explosive energy was released on 9/11 and in reaction continues to be released in human emotion. The truth is now staring many of us in the face!

When detonating a shaped charge:  Pay attention to which way you point it.

[MarkE]

Mark,
Just your take on 911, 
In your view, if you exclude termite, why was there no core column remaining after the collapse of the outer floors in a pancake ?
Decimation of the constitution & wars abroad.>>  If only a few are prepared to defend the constitution and the rest is only prepared to bitch and not use their brains. when they hear the propaganda that is carefully orchestrated by powers that be. A natural result.
In addition to what is in progress, bigger and more shocking crimes can be expected in the near future.
The tube was forecasting today, an expected dead toll by police shooting of over 1000 in USA by the end of the year at the current killing rate.  I wonder if it is the result of the wild West training in Bagdad?
Red

The NIST reports are quite thorough in their explanation of the structural failures in WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7. Thermite is not suitable to a CD.  The main proponent of the the nano-thermite nonsense is a guy whose experimental and analysis skills are so awful that he mistakes scope probe noise for 8X overunity.  Even further into the bushes is the bat shit insane Judy Wood who thinks that a nearly horizontal smoke plume from the north tower was a cloud racing to the heavens from the south tower because of "dustifying beams". 

Civil engineering advances one disaster at a time.    Even though the WTC towers were intended to withstand an airliner crash, a combination of factors caused that best made plan to fail.  9/11 has caused building codes to change dramatically.  The new tower has a very different, and much stronger and more resilent core as a result.

Statistics on police shootings have always been difficult to obtain.  Without them it is hard to tell if the tragedy of 1000 is an improvement or the situation is getting worse.  Compared to other forms of preventable carnage the horror of unjustified police shootings is small potatoes.  The bat shit crazy gun nuts are pushing an agenda of more guns openly carried by anyone, whether or not they have adequate training.  A lot of the police shootings are trained individuals reacting to adrenaline.  That can only get worse with people who are not trained.

The power that we have is still at the polls.  We have an election next year.  What if a large number of people voted against the sure bet of Bush/Clinton in the primaries?