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Testing HHO explosion and implosion effects.

Started by TommeyLReed, July 19, 2015, 01:47:04 AM

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markdansie

Part 2
10 Facts about HHO from the testing1. HHO will reduce carbon monoxide up to 90%. Carbon monoxide is a fuel and HHO is a catalyst to promote its combustion
2. HHO will reduce HC or hydrocarbons in a range 10% to 90%[/font][/size]
3. HHO will reduce particulates, especially organic particulates in a range between 10% and 70%[/font][/size]
4. HHO will reduce EGT (Exhaust gas temperature) from 50 to 150 degree F (depending on engine load)[/font][/size]
5. HHO will quiet the engine down (was noticeable in every lab test by all the technicians but not measured[/font][/size]
6. HHO will not always reduce NOx and in some circumstances increase it (water injection reduces it really well)[/font][/size]
7. Only a small amount and a very specific amount of HHO is needed depending on engine capacity. If too much is applied engine efficiency will be reduced if using electrolysis to produce the HHO[/font][/size]
8. Horsepower is increased between 3% and 12% depending on the engine a grade of diesel used.[/font][/size]
9. HHO did improve and clean heavily carbonized engines. Often after weeks of running fuel efficiency increased through this cleaning process. In one case an improvement of 13% was obtained and when the unit was removed it still retained a 11% improvement.[/font][/size]
10 HHO works best when an engine is at a  ertain speed or above. There we no benefits at idling speed.[/font][/size]

[/font][/size]EfficiencyThis is where a lot of variables come into play including engine condition, engine load, fuel used and gas injected. The results varied from 2% to 22%.
1. In the labs I worked in over the years I always asked the operators the best result they had witnessed in regards to diesel. They were under NDA with specific companies but as a general rule of thumb none had seen better than a 5% improvement In one case the lab had tested over 15 HHO devices over many years. I never witnessed anything above 5% except in testing one device that was generating the hydrogen from the fuel and injecting it directly in to the fuel (well that was the theory)[/font][/size]
2. In some long term tests fuel efficiency did improve between 10% and 20% by cleaning the engine. Up to 80% of this efficiency was maintained after removing the device[/font][/size]
3. Road tests in countries like South Africa have yielded up to 20% improvement, mainly due to assisting the combustion of poor quality fuels. However fuel additives have also achieved similar results in these vehicles.[/font][/size]
4. results on road were typically better on the road, Typically they are in the 2% to 8% range with clean engines burning quality fuel, however i have seen some tests regularly achieve over 10% and up to 20% with older vehicles[/font][/size]
5 In some marine trials over 20% had been obtained. I reveiewed the data but did not take part in teh actual testing[/font][/size]

sm0ky2

Quote from: Paul-R on July 21, 2015, 12:30:15 PM
TK's words are right on the money. But it should be added that HHO is what you get from electrolysis or water fracturing of most types. It comes in EXACT stoichiometric proportions and is therefore explosive and difficult to store and handle. It burns with a flame front which travels supersonically and the bang or crack can damage or puncture ear drums. It is best generated and used at the same time, preferably being pumped straight into a combustion engine to produce improved performance. Do not underestimate the hazards.

its a much safer practice to separate the gasses at the point of electrolysis

For an ICE, the general practice is the throw the oxygen away and just use the air intake for O2
although some have ran the oxygen into the air intake, or even injected it with the fuel at the manifold.

by keeping them separate, the hydrogen is less likely to go volatile.
and with the proper fire arrestors and bubbler tank, its' safer than most everyday activities.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

markdansie

Quote from: tinman on July 21, 2015, 11:13:58 AM
What other fuel do you know of that turns back into it's raw state when burnt.
What other ash from burnt fuel can be refined to become that fuel again-over and over.

All you have to do now is find a way to create the HHO for less energy than you get from burning it.

Holly sh-t,i just had a braingasm. ;D


If you piss in the water it requires less voltage

pomodoro

Thanks for all that info TK and it was good to read the other posts. I agree,  if the mystical BS is taken away, it is still does have some very special traits.

Paul-R

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 21, 2015, 10:55:35 PM
its a much safer practice to separate the gasses at the point of electrolysis

There's  nothing wrong  with that except that  it isn't HHO that you are using any more.