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'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours

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MarkE

Quote from: allcanadian on August 14, 2015, 08:11:04 PM
@MarkE
Speaking of an appeal to authority or rather an abuse of non-existent authority on your part. You proceeded to take what I said out of context then a few posts later claim that everything Gravityblock had mentioned was a false claim despite the fact you have no tangible proof of anything either way. No offense but you seem to be proving GB's claims concerning your metal state in spades. So let me make this clear Mark... you my friend are not an authority on anything so far as I know and I do not recognize you as such until you can prove otherwise.
LOL, I have never asserted that anyone must accept my conclusions based on my qualifications, or the qualifications of anyone else.
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So if you have tangible proof of your claims show it otherwise I must reject your claims for the same reason you might reject mine. In short put up or shut up because you seem to be spamming multiple threads with incoherent gibberish just as you have accused many others of doing. I understand some might buy into your well spoken BS but I hold to the very same premise you do. Show me proof of your claims otherwise I must reject them...Period...End of debate because there is no actual debate.
I have for each position I have offered pointed to the relevant evidence.  If you and/or GB want to proverbially dance around with your fingers stuck in your ears you are free to do so.
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MarkE

Quote from: gravityblock on August 14, 2015, 09:45:47 PM
MarkE must also show proof that gravity is an individualized force and not a combination of phenomena as below.  IMO, the "Travis effect" suggests that the gravitational force is a combination of phenomena instead of an individualized force.

1.) Pressure: As a body on or within the vicinity of the earth cannot be subject to an equal pressure in all directions, the Earth always shielding it from this pressure on one side, the body feels a difference in the forces acting upon it and falls to the surface of the Earth.  2.) Magnetism: The attraction that the vertical component of magnetism exerts on a body is, with small variations, the same as that on any other body. Thus it is that the speed of fall in a vacuum is constant. However, this attraction is not due to mass, it is caused by the magnetism with which the whole body is endowed. 3.) Temperature:  You can prove that a magnet loses its properties on being heated. As matter is made up of stationary waves, heat has a powerful influence on them. By increasing the frequency of these waves they begin to give off light.  Smoke from a cigar is heavier than the surrounding air, yet it rises as the result of warmth. That is to say the difference in density is compensated for by the temperature of the smoke.  4.) Density:  We can see that a balloon full of hydrogen gas rises, according to the volume of the gas.  That is to say, bodies of lesser density always tend to rise, in the same way that water and oil separate, due to density. Gravity does not prevent bodies of lesser density from rising. Whereas in air, which is of low density, heavy objects fall rapidly. In water, more dense than air, they fall more slowly.  Moreover, it is well known that heat reduces the density of a body. It should be noted that heat is a factor which affects gravity, not because it is itself an agent causing the phenomena of gravity, but because it influences magnetism and density.  Pressure also influences density, thus it affects gravity.

Gravock
Welcome to fallacy dome.

gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on August 14, 2015, 10:02:47 PM
Welcome to fallacy dome.

Another assertion by you with no scientific or mathematical rebuttal.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Pirate88179

Quote from: gravityblock on August 14, 2015, 09:45:47 PM
MarkE must also show proof that gravity is an individualized force and not a combination of phenomena as below.  IMO, the "Travis effect" suggests that the gravitational force is a combination of phenomena instead of an individualized force.

1.) Pressure: As a body on or within the vicinity of the earth cannot be subject to an equal pressure in all directions, the Earth always shielding it from this pressure on one side, the body feels a difference in the forces acting upon it and falls to the surface of the Earth.  2.) Magnetism: The attraction that the vertical component of magnetism exerts on a body is, with small variations, the same as that on any other body. Thus it is that the speed of fall in a vacuum is constant. However, this attraction is not due to mass, it is caused by the magnetism with which the whole body is endowed. 3.) Temperature:  You can prove that a magnet loses its properties on being heated. As matter is made up of stationary waves, heat has a powerful influence on them. By increasing the frequency of these waves they begin to give off light.  Smoke from a cigar is heavier than the surrounding air, yet it rises as the result of warmth. That is to say the difference in density is compensated for by the temperature of the smoke.  4.) Density:  We can see that a balloon full of hydrogen gas rises, according to the volume of the gas.  That is to say, bodies of lesser density always tend to rise, in the same way that water and oil separate, due to density. Gravity does not prevent bodies of lesser density from rising. Whereas in air, which is of low density, heavy objects fall rapidly. In water, more dense than air, they fall more slowly.  Moreover, it is well known that heat reduces the density of a body. It should be noted that heat is a factor which affects gravity, not because it is itself an agent causing the phenomena of gravity, but because it influences magnetism and density.  Pressure also influences density, thus it affects gravity.

Gravock

Geeze.  Just glancing at your post tells me you need to take a remedial physics class.  A hydrogen balloon does not "rise" it is more proper to say that it is pushed up by the denser material surrounding it (air) until it reaches equilibrium. (a specific altitude based upon the air density)

Where are you reading this crap and why are you believing it to be true?

Pressure does not affect gravity.  Gravity is a constant, the effects of which can be influenced by a medium but it is NOT proper to say that gravity itself is influenced.  This demonstrates a less than remedial understanding of basic physics.

Thanks for showing us what you do not know.  Now I am sure I do not need to take you seriously.

Bill

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I don't mean to sound harsh.  It just gets to me when folks make claims that known physics is wrong and try to explain what really is going on without any scientific experimental proof.  Sure, "known science" is just that.  It is what is "known" at any given time.  But, to advance that knowledge or change it requires really strong scientific experimental evidence.  AC will ask who gets to decide what is real evidence?  Minnie has it correct when he said (paraphrasing) look at the technological developments that actually work based upon this "known science."  When folks claim that science is wrong, I find it funny that they are typing this on a computer, and internet system designed upon those principles that clearly demonstrates that it does indeed work.
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

gravityblock

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 14, 2015, 10:33:15 PM
Geeze.  Just glancing at your post tells me you need to take a remedial physics class.  A hydrogen balloon does not "rise" it is more proper to say that it is pushed up by the denser material surrounding it (air) until it reaches equilibrium. (a specific altitude based upon the air density)

Where are you reading this crap and why are you believing it to be true?

Pressure does not affect gravity.  Gravity is a constant, the effects of which can be influenced by a medium but it is NOT proper to say that gravity itself is influenced.  This demonstrates a less than remedial understanding of basic physics.

Thanks for showing us what you do not know.  Now I am sure I do not need to take you seriously.

Bill

Another inversion of the truth!  Thanks for showing us what you thought you knew, but in reality didn't know.  I hope you're not taking yourself seriously, LOL.  High resolution maps of Earth's surprisingly inconsistent gravity field. (video)

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.