A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]

[TinselKoala]

The "motor without a camshaft" is a pitiful strawman, and only shows that you don't understand the basics of what you are trying to do. Let me run it down for you.

You have a rotor that dissipates a certain amount of power as it spins down from some push --- which so far your friends are only doing with Mister Hand, hence variable input and not repeatable consistently. You and they don't even know how much power your rotors dissipate!

You are making additions and changes that are supposed to add energy to the rotor's spin. Maybe the additions aren't perfect "yet" so maybe they only add a little bit of energy, less than that which is required to make it self run yet. But you don't even know this, because you have not done the right experiments to establish a baseline power dissipation for comparison. You seem to think that when you have everything just right, you'll give it a spin and it will keep going, and you don't have to test anything scientifically until you achieve that. Then why are your friends bothering to spin _any_ of your systems by hand when you know already that the "motor" isn't complete? That's just silly, since you've said that testing before a complete motor is made is useless. Or did I put those words into your mouth too?

Your friends are making changes that are supposed to have some effect. I am telling you that these changes are only adding drag, or doing nothing, to your rotor spins. And no matter what changes in ramps, magnet angles, etc. this will continue to be true. Test it and find out! You dare not, because your faith will be challenged by your findings. Meanwhile you and they continue your fiddling about. But in another week, nobody will have a working motor. In another month, still nobody will have one. In a year... same thing. No working magnet motor will come out of your "designs", whether or not you follow my test suggestions. But by following my suggestions, perhaps _someone_ will begin to see the light and will stop wasting their time, creativity and money on these claims of yours that are simply not true. Just as many people who originally believed UFOPolitics' claims of "Official Overunity Galore" have given up and stopped spending money on those false claims -- because they _tested_ properly and scientifically and didn't find any overunity in their rewound motors and kludged-up driver circuits.

I'll check back in a week, and remind you again. And in a month. And, if I live that long, in a year, when you and your friends will _still_ not have anything that will support your claim of having made a working magnet motor.

Go ahead and prove me wrong! You cannot, because your claims are false.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22CiKMPpaY

[MadMack]

I researched your online history in this forum and a few others going back several years. The majority of your posts serve to ridicule and repress ideas, experiments, and basic research on controversial concepts toward free energy.

You are following your standard book of play here. The same methods and even the phrases you like to use can be seen throughout numerous threads in multiple venues, even on YouTube.

So now I know what your purpose is I am through wasting time on you. Go right ahead and continue your efforts to discredit and undermine what I am trying to accomplish. It will have no affect.

To everyone reading this.
Don't accept my word for this. Skim through all of the posts made by Tinselkoala on this forum, then Google different energy forums along with that member name. See it for yourself.

Adiós

[minnie]

    Poor old MadMack doesn't seem to like the truth.
    Simple for you to make Tinsel look daft MadMack,
    just come up with a working device.
            John.

[PIH123]

Adiós

Say it ain't so. You're not leaving are you.


EMJunkie did that.

He came here to "Teach" us (just like you).
Then he left.
But thankfully, he came back.
Then ran away.
Then came back.
Then chickened out.
Then came back.
Then when danger reared it's ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled (holy grail)
etc ........................


Not sure of the current status (whether he is back or not), but it doesn't matter.
His thread is almost 400 pages and still without a working device.
It doesn't take much around here.


Hang in there MadMack, you can do this.
You have an NDA and a "cease and desist" order on your side,
so you don't have to show any silly schematics / results / theory like EMJ at least "tried" to do.

Good luck. 1000 pages !!!!!!!!!
I am rooting for you

Pete 

[ramset]

Hmmm
I have to say on the subject Of EMJunkie
I honestly have no idea why he does what he does[ refuses testing or public investigation ]

I find it funny that Brad's very thorough  investigations are happening in a thread where there has never been an investigation of EMJunkies initial claim or anything ??[at least that I am aware]
not even a black box investigation ??
ZERO Zilch NADA ??
it is the Elephant in the room over there and all credibility goes Bye bye for Chris ,Not so at all with Brad
he knows how tricky these things can really be and how easy a simple transformer can run you around in circles if you don't know what you're looking at.
IMO opinion Brad is taking Chris to school ...which is a good thing,  he actually helps us all.


On this Topic
  I am quite aware of the implications to a persons life for signing an NDA as well as breaching assumed confidences .

But to be completely honest ...

I am just grateful to the fellows building this and publicly sharing their findings and hard work ,I hope they can maintain their sanity.
Few things can be as daunting as Magnets and all the minutia which happens when you try to put them together to do work.

makes herding cats look like a dream job ...

I also think it is quite arrogant to assume you have seen it all and know it all when it comes to things you have actually never seen or known...such as a working Magnet motor.
Oh I forgot...Its impossible ??
NAHH,  I'm not buying that.

Just one mans opinion..

respectfully
Chet K

PS
I am completely rooting for Macks replicators to find something unusual
thread here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-21.html