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World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar

Started by e2matrix, August 29, 2015, 09:01:12 PM

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gravityblock

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 01, 2015, 11:07:42 PM
Note that this statement does not jive with the light intensity vs. time graph presented up above. The graph shows a _constant_ 75 Lumens or so at the 12 hour point, with a horizontal (no decrease) trend at that point.

Their statement does jive with the light intensity vs. time graph.  Adgex's accumulator is based on NiCd and we can see from the light blue line on the graph below how it stays horizontal through it's entire discharge cycle until the end.  Their accumulator is more like a hybrid or a cross between a battery and a super capacitor, so it's not going to have the same horizontal line throughout it's entire discharge cycle as a NiCd battery would (the first 7 hours looks more like a lead acid battery).  Towards the end of the discharge cycle where there is a dramatic decrease in the trend of the light blue line is where I suspect Adgex is using a joule thief to extend the running time from 8 hrs to 12 hrs, which would then keep a near constant 75 lumens through the rest of the discharge cycle.  Adgex's graph shows a dotted vertical line at the end of it's discharge cycle around the 12 hr mark to represent it's total discharge time.  This dotted vertical line shows approximately where the NiCd super-capacitor will fall below the voltage threshold required to further light the LED at any lumens, thus a horizontal line with no decrease trend at that point.  Look at the Altairnano Li-ion (red line) total discharge time (TDT), it's discharge is relatively horizontal through the entire discharge cycle with little to no decrease trend at the end of the discharged cycle, similar to what we see in the Adgex's graph.  Also note, how they used a dotted line to represent the TDT as Adgex did.  How convenient of you to over-look the dotted vertical line at the 12 hr mark and how convenient of you to ignore the variations in the discharge cycle amongst the different types of accumulators.


Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

profitis

The shaking torch is more convenient/reliable.don't have to live or stand in the right area when using

gravityblock

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 01, 2015, 11:07:42 PM
Q: I ran my flashlight until it went dark, and now I've waited 14 days for it to recharge itself and it still doesn't work. Why not?
A: You live in a "dead zone".
Q: Oh. Can I have my  money back, then?
A: On what basis? The device works just as we said. It's not our fault that you live in a dead zone.

Most people will not use their flashlight for 12 hours at a time.  According to them, if you use the flashlight for a few hours per day, then it will always have a charge to provide light.  2 hours per day x 6 days = 12 hours of light.  And during those six days, it will have had enough time during the worst case scenario in a dead zone to nearly maintain the flashlight at a full charge at all times.  I think this is more than reasonable for nearly all of Adgex's potential customers.


Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Pirate88179

Quote from: gravityblock on September 02, 2015, 08:27:57 PM
Most people will not use their flashlight for 12 hours at a time.  According to them, if you use the flashlight for a few hours per day, then it will always have a charge to provide light.  2 hours per day x 6 days = 12 hours of light.  And during those six days, it will have had enough time during the worst case scenario in a dead zone to nearly maintain the flashlight at a full charge at all times.  I think this is more than reasonable for nearly all of Adgex's potential customers.


Gravock

Great but, we can't buy one to test these claims?  You sound like a commissioned salesperson for this product so please, tell us how/where we can buy one to evaluate?  Unless, they don't really want one evaluated?  Several folks here said they tried to order one but...no go.

So, what gives?


Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

profitis

Self-discharge is the enemy of the average torch.batteries leak current to below voltage threshold while sitting around doing nothing.