Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!

[MIdone]

Hi Tom,
There was no mention of the Clem Engine in any of those newsletters I have.  I was also getting another one at that same time from Don Kelly, "S.E.A.", but no mention of it in there either. 
The internet kind of took over all of that stuff around the mid 1990's. 
If you try the Yahoo search engine you can usually get some different results than Google.

If you search, 'Clem engine pictures'; even your stuff comes up:
"https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBT.IRAwhWeakAoNNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyODRjcmJxBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzNDFfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=Clem+Engine&fr=moz35#id=77&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fkeelynet.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F05%2Fcar5hp.jpg%3Fw%3D400%26h%3D529&action=close"

I kept some of those old newsletters for referencing, and/or evidence.

The CEACU boys made flat out claims of having an over-unity centrifugal fluid machine.
So I kept an open mind; ...ok, ...maybe, ...lets see it. 

They couldn't deliver on their claims, tried to stall wanting more financing, then bugged out.

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I think most people who read these forums are keeping an open mind and willing to listen, but wise enough to question before they jump on the boat and say 'yep' you got it! 
It's obvious that you are putting a lot of time and hard work into your ideas, and openly showing everyone.  I can appreciate that.
I'm guessing that you want to open source your project on here to get feedback; right?

Well; I think you will probably be the first to attempt an over-unity device using a hydraulic motor in the way you are suggesting. -using vacuum force to suck a fluid through a motor, from a reservoir, to exit the rotor rim. 
You may want to find out what the efficiency ratings are for the motor you bought, using the flows and pressures across it you have in mind.
Some hydraulic motors won't even turn unless they have a pressure drop of a couple hundred pounds across them.

Might it be a good idea to see how the motor would work first, with a pump trying to suck fluid through it; and see what kind of pressure drop you can get across it?

A pure vacuum is 0 psi.-(it doesn't get lower than that.)  Atmospheric pressure at sea level is 14.7 psi.
You posted an illustration that doesn't make sense to me; or is it a mistake?
In it, you have a draw at the bottom of 1gpm @ -100psi.
How can anything be at -100psi?  I don't understand. 
If a pressure gauge is calibrated to '0' at atmospheric pressure, it could only drop to -14.7 in a pure vacuum.  Outer space is the closest you can get to that.
In the upper rotor portion you have it throwing out 100gpm @ 1psi.  Where did the additional 99 gallons come from, when you only have 1 gallon coming in?

If it's dribbling out at the rotor rim at 1psi, it would still have the rotational velocity of the rotor when it dropped out.  -Would that just be lost?
I'm not attacking you; these are just things that crossed my mind as I read about your idea.

Accelerating masses with centrifugal forces, while at the same time trying do work with the accelerating masses, can be difficult.

The Clem Engine claims are a mystery from the stories I can find.  People love a mystery, and can build it into anything without the facts.

What's on the internet, indicates that it is turning by the force of high pressure jets at the rim and a spiral channel to the rim.
Vegetable oil is a key to its operation. 
In this video at about 18 seconds in, it mentions a 7 stage pump that drives the rotor.
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OzcUp7i5sk"

I'm my mind this sounds more like a CEACU.

[TommeyLReed]

Hi Midone,

Yes I understand what you're saying about the basic flow and my simple formula.

I will explain it in a better way:

If the rotating drum has 8-1/2 rim jets@100gpm and the input fluid has only 1-1/2 to pull fluid into the drum.

What takes place is flow will have to increase in flow speed going into the center to equal the same amount of 100gpm coming out.

Like all fluids, to increase flow from a small pipe you would have to increase pressure.

As the rotation is spinning what really is happening is vacuum of high pressure is pulling fluid into the rotating drum I call -psi. would have the same effect if I force high pressure into the drum.

Instead of pushing fluid, the drum pulls the fluid.

If the design is correct, this means that if the rotating drum throws outward 100gpm, it would have to replace it with 100gpm input.
The inertia is where the magic happens due to the centrifugal pump design.

Tom

[MIdone]

Hi Tom,
Thanks for responding to my questions.  I was just trying to follow a drop of fluid through the cycle of your machine concept.

Yes; whirling a smaller mass around in a horizontal circle to suspend a larger vertical one; is fun and fires the inventive mind!

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So in real life mechanics, you would expect maybe 100gpm flowing through the device.

If you had 3 pressure gauges all calibrated to read '0' at atmospheric pressure;
-and placed one at the rim, #1
-one at the hub, where the fluid exits your hydraulic motor, #2
-and one at the intake of your hydraulic motor; #3
what might you expect them to read while it's operating?

You mentioned 1psi at the rim. -so that would be the reading on pressure gauge #1.
The other two pressure gauge readings I think would be the important ones to get an idea of what might happen with the hydraulic motor.
#2 & #3

Thanks again for sharing your work.

[TommeyLReed]

Hi Midone,

Yes that would be a interesting test, I will need to get some gauges and one have a vacuum side also.

Tom

[TommeyLReed]

New video update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppDb2k4FXQA

Tom.