Bessler's Mt 125

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there is something admirable when anyone attempts to redefine previous  and current understanding.
if they are not hurting anyone or themselves and can find some enjoyment in the process, these are the people that deserve to be encouraged to continue with their efforts.

the studying invention motivated experimenter understands that if they make a breakthrough, it will be due to the result of their interpretation being from a different angle of design approach.
one should develop a filter for critical evaluations offered freely by outside influences, being able to filter the useful flow of knowledge they might actually be offering, or at least knowing that is how a critic prefers to be understood.

critics will always see things from their individual and sometimes shared points of view, some are based on practical research, others more based on opinion.
for example: after a caveman invented a wheel, a group of other cavepeople decided to focus on developing a lever to act as a braking system, so no one else would end up injured beyond repair like the original wheel designer was after a practical education in the effects of gravity moments after testing the new method of transportation using a hill.

there are some professional armchair critics that have never attempted to play on a field though, they can be found yelling at their tv screens mostly.
they could've scored that goal, they are usually sure of it.
they could've played a better role than some other actor they just watched on a tv show or at the movies, and are usually very good at trivia.
they race to be first in lines, skip the of idea racing ahead so they can offer to hold doors open for other people, and anyone who knows them, usually would not rely on them to want to change their tune.

there some good critics though too, they wont be found yelling at anyone to jump, instead they will try to be supportive, understanding that emotions can sometimes run high for a critic and for the less critical.
those critics know that there is much they themselves do not know, even if they can hit home runs more often than other teamplayers.
they know they could easily end up in a twisted wreck trying to push the limits of a funnycar at the time trials, so they never make such attempts at developing such a driving skill to be successful outside of baseball.
they are competitive though and want to win, and this motivation can be noticed in just about every occupational field.

sports is entertainment for most people, or a good excuse to get off the couch and go down the street to the park and throw a frisbee around or something.

most people do not have little labs set up in their garages and basements built to evaluate and or redefine theories about physics!
this is rare.
though if safety is always paramount, these are the teamplayers humanity can definitely appreciate for the useful results that raise the bar for the quality of life or making it last longer for everyone.

therefore, if you enjoy your research, please continue as you will seeing things from your own point of view, and understand that that ability might be considered a gift, even if you sometimes are seen and feel like a moth on a window screen, trying to get to a light source.

all the best

  Nothing personal, but you would be amazed at how much Bessler knew. The guy was smart. And in today's terms ?
He'd still be smart. I think this is something a lot of people over look. After all, William Shakespeare is one of the more
famous playwrights and he lived in the 1400's. With Bessler, he had an advantage, they were called Newton and Leibniz.

p.s., Leibniz watched a Bessler wheel for a couple of hours. From a scientific perspective, Newton might have been
          the only better reference.

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  Bill,
I'm not going to post any more work in here. You and AB Hammer can have the forum.

edited to add; Bill, I think it's funny that neither of you could say you were only talking
                    trash because perpetual motion is not possible. Anyone who would check out
                    any of my previous threads would see I was pursuing perpetual motion.
                     Other people in here posted they thought it was funny. It could be my thinking
                   perpetual motion was funny and not the trash talking I had to tolerate.
                       In a way, that is funny But in AB Hammer's Air Bubble Machine thread, if he would've been willing
                    to discuss that in more detail, we probably could have realized Mt 125 at that time even though we
                    might not have realized that it was Bessler's wheel at that time.
                       If you check his thread, I suggested using collapsing weights which is about what a bellow is. And yes,
                    we probably could have made working perpetual motions at that time, gotten some patents and made some
                    money. His own thread would show I tried working with him as business partners and co-inventors.
                     And that's why I'm building Mt 125 today. No one can claim I'm stealing their invention or anything else. And if
                    someone wants to talk trash and waste more of my time kind of like what you're doing now, it takes a lot to build
                    something like this. Making bellows that don't leak requires me to design them myself. But I don't think but a few
                    people have been committed to doing involved builds of this type.

[AB Hammer]

  There is one sad aspect to this. Technically, pirate88179, ab hammer and tinselkoala should be given credit for this build.
They told me to prove it. It is how they teach people. It has nothing to do with my working at it because their teaching methods require obedience to them.
And tinselkoala, since you've never made known who you are publicly, you might only be a computer program. They do exist where they interact
with people and most people can't tell the difference. This is because they don't ask for any specific information. But you have no name and no face.
And like ab hammer, both of you will target me because of my service connected disabilities. I think that's something people like you over looked, I'm motivated so I can keep people like you and him from ruining my life. There is a reason why I consider my hearing loss a disability and am working to change how the U.S. Veteran's Administration views hearing losses.
And with ab hammer, I did offer to help him have his knees fixed and he said no. I let my landlord's property manager know about this and he told me that he has no meniscus in his knee. It's very painful for him and he has to work. He has a family to support. So if things work out for me, I'll see if I can't help him to have his knee(s) replaced and also some financial aid since he does have a new car payment. No reason to see his credit  hurt because he needs his knee(s) fixed, is there ?

Lindgaard

I don't want or need any help from you. I am fully covered by the VA for I am a disabled Veteran.

Now as for your attempt at MT125. I hope you have a lot of fun with your build. Don't hold your breath on it running for it holds the same problem and over 99% of wheels built. What a good builder should be looking into is that less than 1% of possibilities, but there are still lessons to learn in the 99% of designs. 

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Lindgaard

I don't want or need any help from you. I am fully covered by the VA for I am a disabled Veteran.

Now as for your attempt at MT125. I hope you have a lot of fun with your build. Don't hold your breath on it running for it holds the same problem and over 99% of wheels built. What a good builder should be looking into is that less than 1% of possibilities, but there are still lessons to learn in the 99% of designs.

   Alan,
  I don't consider you a builder. As for what I am working on, I will mention your posts discrediting Bessler's drawings. I am tired of it.
Kind of why I posted the Background Radiation Conversion Concept. If pirate88179 and tinselkoala can't prove it wrong, then I will be able
to show where the 3 of you don't consider the science behind something.
By the way, how many times have I told you that one of Bessler's drawing was his proof ? I think besslerwheel.com is a good example of
why he had proof among his drawings. Too many people in that forum would patent it as their invention.
  With me, I am disappointed I haven't been allowed to discuss the engineering behind what Bessler knew.

edited to add; ab hammer, if this works, I'll be able to call you my Wagner. After all, then it would be considered that you passed up an opportunity to make money. I'm not like you. I could use improved financial circumstances.

edited to add; ab hammer, the attached image is the payment I receive for my service connected disability.
                   I doubt you are a disabled veteran because you have posted that a rating of 30% is required before
                  the V.A. will allow a veteran to receive disability payments. And since I have been kept from having
                  a family because of my service connected hearing loss, am tired of people with normal hearing or who
                  have had support for a hearing loss thinking they know everything.   Kind of why there is a word called
                  discrimination in our vocabulary.     It didn't come about by accident.

[AB Hammer]

Hay Lindgarrd

To put to rest some more of your BS about what I am supposed to not be. Here is proof of that I am a disabled Veteran but I had to erase the numbers and bar off for security reason.

Note below my picture. VA healthcare enrollee, SERVICE CONNECTED

Now leave this alone for it does not belong in this forum!