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Gravity magnetic lever wheel working in WM2D (could this work in reality!)

Started by inroades, October 18, 2006, 02:28:58 PM

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TheProgrammer

Dingus Mungus wrote:
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If no work was being done by the magnetic field, then why does it not react to gravity? Next add weight to the magnet untill the magnet can no longer support itself. If no measurable ammount of work was being done lifting its own mass why can't it support ten times its own mass? When a magnet is supporting its own weight or the weight of other objects against the pull of gravity, work is being done. It's the lack of movement (aka falling) that proves work has been done.

Exactly.

Gravity pulls down at 9.81m/sec/sec (9.8 meters / second squared)... this is called gravitational acceleration (also known as the gravitational constant).

The work done by magnets is the nullification of the gravitational acceleration... in effect, it is an inverse acceleration that matches the acceleration of gravity... hence, work is being done... even if the magnet does not move.

The only time you could honestly say that work isn't being done by a non-moving magnet is if it is not subject to gravitational force or any other external force.

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: TheProgrammer on April 10, 2007, 08:12:03 PM

The only time you could honestly say that work isn't being done by a non-moving magnet is if it is not subject to gravitational force or any other external force.


Including the warping of its own flux. Meaning if a ferrous metal is with in proximity of the magnets flux, the flux lines warp to attemp attaction of the ferrous metal. Even if the flux is not powerful enough to move the ferrous metal or the magnet, some of the energy contained in the magnet is transfered to the ferrous metal in two forms. The first form of transference is giving the ferrous metal its own uniform polarity and flux field, and the second form of transference is magnetocaloritic which is a form of heat transfer related to the applied B value of the magnet and the ferrous metals saturation value.

dingbat

I respectfully disagree.  Magnets and gravity are forces, not energies.

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: dingbat on April 18, 2007, 04:32:12 PM
I respectfully disagree.  Magnets and gravity are forces, not energies.

Also with all due respect:

Force and energy are absolutely one and the same. In the way that you could not have one without the other. Especially when it comes to electricy (energy) and magnetism (energy). Hence physics discription of the force of electromagnetism. What'll really blow your mind is that its heavily theorized, but not proven that gravity is also a form of the exact same energy. Perhaps I could interest you in a audio lecture... Look for "dr richard wolfson's modern physics for non scientists". It's 24hours long, but chock full of physics goodness!

~Dingus Mungus

turqa

its dont working >:(
menu>world>force field>sample force (custom)
if select other default forces then see why dont work