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A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

Started by MileHigh, November 29, 2015, 04:51:35 AM

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Nink

Quote from: MileHigh on November 30, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
Did RMS really make a 2000 farad capacitor the size of a credit card?  Show me the data because right now I don't believe it.

Milehigh I appreciate your skepticism. Maybe you need to build a team who can officially request one of his creditcard supercapacitors and calculate actual Farad. I am sure we can come up with an agreed and calibrated test method to validate the claim. Any suggestions on an accurate test method (or a method accurate enough to meet your needs - measure charge time | discharge time with a known load that is calibrated with a commercial cap that's 2000 Farads). 

Quote from: MagnaProp on November 29, 2015, 11:22:46 PM
I noticed a couple places where he said the values was .01 when the meter clearly showed .08 but I could care less since he said he wasn't trying to be super accurate in that presentation.
Not sure where you are referring to.  He did say .01g on the scales when it read .08 but I think everyone watching realized he was doing the math in his head.  First he weighed the paper (he did not zero out the scale with paper on it) .07g then he weighed negative material .075g but he read .005 on the scale subtracting in his head,  Finally he weighed the active material and the scale read .08 so he said .01g of material. 

MileHigh

Quote from: Nink on November 30, 2015, 08:30:09 AM
Milehigh I appreciate your skepticism. Maybe you need to build a team who can officially request one of his creditcard supercapacitors and calculate actual Farad. I am sure we can come up with an agreed and calibrated test method to validate the claim. Any suggestions on an accurate test method (or a method accurate enough to meet your needs - measure charge time | discharge time with a known load that is calibrated with a commercial cap that's 2000 Farads). 

There is no need for a team to do this.  Also, the person building the device, whether it be a supercapacitor or a battery, should be able to make measurements and demonstrate competence in what they are doing.  There is no need for hand-holding here.

The weighing of the materials was problematic because there was so little available and the measurements were at the extreme lower limit of the resolution of the digital scale.  That could have been improved upon by weighing 10 times the amount of material for both cases.  However, I am not concerned about that, it's just quibbling relative to another issue.

There is an elephant in the room that makes other debatable aspects of the clip pale by comparison.

MileHigh

minnie




I feel MH. is a bit out of order with RMS.
If there's a serious error don't play games.
I'm sure RMS. would be happy to discuss
things if they were addressed in the proper
manner.
Riddles won't get anyone anywhere!

memoryman

MH, do not lump John P Rohner in with Bob Rohner; they are completely different.
I have found Bob to be honest and open; John is a different beast.