Accurate Measurements on pulsed system's harder than you think.

[digitalindustry]

As shown before digitalindustry,the current trace shows the opposite to what we should see.
Both in mine and TK's scope shot's. TK's scope shot shows no curve on his current trace,indicating that the temperature of the globe remains the same during both the on time and off time
My current trace climbs throughout the whole pulse--this is showing a decrease in resistance,and thus a decrease in temperature of the bulb filament<--the opposite to what should be happening.
The last scope shot is a true wave form that should be seen across the CVR when current is passing through an incandescent bulb,but both DUT's show that is not happening-->why?.


Brad

ah ok, so this tells me we should start to think about what is different between your an TK system based on the current curve.

this is the path to the answer, because now we have two variables.

can you expand on what you think is occurring?

can i ask, the top scope shot  (in the post above) this is with the inductor correct?  (from your first video)

[digitalindustry]

@Digital, I am glad you disagree. Please feel free to prove me wrong.

The Data I presented supports what the circuit is doing. TK's data also supports my Data saying the same thing, Bulb is Dimmer because of Less Power, Bulb is Brighter because of more power!!!

Please feel free to show my work as wrong though and I will happily admit I am wrong.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

i'm not disagreeing i'm learning, disagreeing is an inefficient but necessary process of learning,  but if i disagree i'd base it on something more than the understanding i have now on this, if you read my comment i'm not disagreeing.

but the highlighted current curve is interesting.

if as a result of understanding the difference between TK and TM setup, that brings us to a new understanding you and i both may disagree with your result right? 

[tinman]

ah ok, so this tells me we should start to think about what is different between your an TK system based on the current curve.

this is the path to the answer, because now we have two variables.

can you expand on what you think is occurring?

can i ask, the top scope shot  (in the post above) this is with the inductor correct?  (from your first video)

Yes,the top shot is with the inductor.

Have you heard of negative,or vacuum energy?.

[digitalindustry]

Yes,the top shot is with the inductor.

Have you heard of negative,or vacuum energy?.

yes i've heard it called lots of different things, 'cold electricity' etc.

thanks for the info, i will look into this. i have something also to share i will post it here, it may be relevant, i can give a little bit of a 'why' around it but i'm still learning of course.

it's just something to keep in mind because of the relationship that 'energy' systems obviously have to geometry.

some people would/might state there is no relationship however considering your revaluations with Pi the golden ratio and the rotor you are creating this all leads me to believe you do see this relationship to geometry.

after all 'Tau' or t is just the 'turns' in a circle which then represents the degrees of all the different shapes.

as elegantly stated here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7vhMMXagQ

i recommend everyone watch from at least 2m on

so i'll get this shape design that was brought up and i saw/learned about and explain why i think it is interesting. i.e give 'tangible' evidence.

[woopy]

Hi all

Just a video to expose my problem with those "mean input pulsed power calculation"

https://youtu.be/0QWdtTItfHU

It seems to me that analogic instruments just have the ability to feel the right energy, because they don't calculate, they are feeling the right dissipated power all along the pulse and the mechanical device is able to average that power perfectly, perhaps better than the scope.

Some will say that the inertia of the mechanical device will somehow "brake " the reading, but i think that when the frequency of an event is high enough, the max amplitude should be reached at some point. But this is not the case, and i have tried from 50  Hz up to 100 Hz and the result stays the same.

Voila

Laurent