Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

[Grumage]

Interesting, I've never seen such a demo. So if you can find yours I would like to see it.

The other interesting thing is to use a body of water to demonstrate this, since to move an object over water you usually needs more force then to move the same object using wheels and bearings on a flat surface.

Luc

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Just saw your post and mags demo. It would be more convincing to see it move over a large distance like a pool.

Dear Luc.

Not quite a pond but at least there's no breeze to upset things !!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YCAFvvbxuk

Cheers Grum.

[poynt99]

Well Poynt-like i have been told many times before-->having confidence that something can be done is not the scientific method. It is odd that you would have to fine tune your setup to try and achieve the same results,when i can just throw together any bits and pieces,and achieve the results.

It is also odd that all those that seem to think there is nothing out of the ordinary happening here,are also the very same people that cannot show the same effect using other means.
If it is so straight forward and ordinary,then why is it so hard to show the same results i show?.

I would like to see the same results achieved without the use of PM's. I mean if PM's do no useful work,then the results should be achievable without the use of PM's.

Brad.

I gave you one method to achieve the same effect without using magnets. If you are interested in seeing it done without them, why don't you build it?

[Magluvin]

Dear Luc.

Not quite a pond but at least there's no breeze to upset things !!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YCAFvvbxuk

Cheers Grum.

Looks more close to a compass moving when the movement is slowed down by the water tension.  Have you tried it on edge on your table?  It is hard sometimes to keep the magnet from falling over when the poles are 90 deg of earth field.


Seems strong enough that if you make a large square coil and spin it, like on axis of a window motor coil, that it will generate electricity, using the earth field.

Mags

[gotoluc]

Dear Luc.

Not quite a pond but at least there's no breeze to upset things !!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YCAFvvbxuk

Cheers Grum.

Are you sure your plate of water was leveled correctly?... just kidding

Thanks for making the test and taking the time to upload the video demo.

Needs to be studied a little more I think

Luc

[MileHigh]

Brad:

Like i said MH,i have been experimenting with pulse motors,magnets and rotors for many years-as have many others. I have known for a long time how to produce the W wave,and that part in itself has no real magic to it. But what you dont see,or have failed to see is the fact that that wave,and how it was produced leads to the wave form i showed a few post back. Im not sure what you mean by DC offset on the scope shot,but nothing was altered on the scope-if that is what you mean. You say that that wave form is impossible to produce due to the laws of induction,and im saying that it is not impossible at all. All you need is a long coil,and a double pole rotor with the correctly timed magnets and fields.

I am assuming the "W" wave and the allegation of a coil waveform were the voltage is always above zero volts are two separate things under discussion.   For me the "W" wave means nothing.  The "always above zero volts" waveform is impossible.  If you want to draw a diagram of the setup and/or demo something then I would be able to comment more.

The reason there is nothing remarkable about the setup with the lossy coil is because the pulsing coil combined with the rotor in effect looks like an electrical circuit.  In other words, you have a pulse motor which is a combination of an electrical circuit and a mechanical circuit and electrical circuits are analogs for mechanical circuits and mechanical circuits are analogs for electrical circuits.  So, a pulse motor is an electro-mechanical circuit which just looks like an electrical circuit.  If you were on the bench playing with a purely electrical circuit and changed a component value and saw the power-in change and the power-out change you would not think anything of it.  So why think something unusual or remarkable is happening or that the magnets are doing something special when you add the rotor?

If you do undertake to test a more efficient coil that would be great.  Like I already stated I think your rotor also leaves a lot to be desired.  If I can offer a suggestion it would be to use a two-pole or four-pole rotor with the same pole facing outwards for all magnets.  That will give you a cleaner and more controlled test environment for your coil.

With the typical kinds of bench experiments that you and your peers do with pulse motors and coils and transformers, it's basically impossible for you to do anything that "conventional science can't explain" or to "observe an exception to a so-called law."  There is always an explanation, but sometimes that explanation is not that obvious and it takes some brainstorming to figure it out.

MileHigh