Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.

[verpies]

It would be interesting.
For starters these experiments should be repeated with the Finemet cores.

[tinman]

Capiche?

Brad,

That's an extremely poor reason not to accept my challenge, and will be perceived as a cop-out.

So be it. You didn't have much of a chance anyway.

Carry on believing you have something extraordinary with your ssg rotor setup if you wish, but proof will be in the pudding, whether you can make anything extraordinary of it or not. I hope you do, but I'm quite certain that you're no further ahead when compared to good old fashioned proper engineering design.

Really Poynt ?
I would have expected better from you.
It is not me that is copping out here. You tried to replicate the effect from my DUT-you couldnt,and came up with the excuse that it needs more tweaking,but you dont have the time

I have accepted your next challenge on the grounds that you complete your first challenge--nothing more than that.
Quote: Carry on believing you have something extraordinary with your ssg rotor setup if you wish, but proof will be in the pudding,

Well Poynt,we are awaiting for you to provide that proof,and show us that your simulation of my DUT can show what my DUT show's. Saying that you dont have the time to finish tweaking it,but to then propose another challenge(having time for another challenge) seems a bit Irish to me?.

Well hold on a minute there Luc, Brad is the one making claims that he has some extraordinary magic trick that is giving him better efficiency over anything else, so it is him that is putting those conditions on himself. The whole point of the challenge was to put good old engineering design up against his magic ssg scheme.

These claims i have made(an increase in inductance in the coil),are the very same one's that you !not so long ago! deemed may be possible. But here you are calling it a magic trick .It is also true that you set out to try and disprove my theory with what you call every day physics-nothing special going on there,and you were unable to achieve the results with your simulated version that i have with my DUT. If they are just everyday events taking place,why are you having so much trouble simulating the result's?. The reason you cannot,is because your simulator is based around known physics and parameters. Do you know why your simulated version cannot return the results that you had hoped it would Poynt-->because they still dont know what the magnetic force is,so they cannot program your sim to simulate that which they dont know. The proof of this is in your result's.

It would seem to me that it is you that took a cop-out with your first attempt to disprove me,when your simulated version returned a negative result.


Brad.

[tinman]

LOL,

It is ironic actually; I am often criticized for offering my simulations as a means to analyze a circuit and for rarely building anything, but here we have the exact opposite! Brad wants me to complete my simulation before he will accept a challenge where I would be building an actual device.

Too damn funny. 

Now is your big chance at showing every one here that your sim can show real world/real device result's. I am often criticized for not seeing things through to the end(hey Poynt  ),so lets not have others place you in the same boat as me. I am taking this to the end,so how about you do the same 

Like i said before--if you have the time to build an actual device,why dont you have the time to finish of your simulated version first,and show every one here that your sim will indeed show real world result's.


Brad

[tinman]

I'm just baffled that anybody can believe that a pulsing coil and a few magnets spinning on a rotor can be doing something special.  However, we have been there dozens of times in the past.

It's fun to try to figure out exactly what is going on as an interesting challenge.  I think it was on the other thread that I took some measurements that Woopy made on one of his builds and I crunched the hell out of his measurements and extracted lots of information and pretty much reverse-engineered the energy dynamics of his entire setup.  All that I got was stony silence.



In the spirit of the "understanding" challenge I will post some sample timing diagrams on another thread.  I don't expect that Brad will ever do a timing diagram, but perhaps seeing some examples will inspire somebody else to make one for their next pulse motor build.  In fact, if there is ever another pulse motor build off, supplying a timing diagram for your motor should be a requirement for entry into the competition.

http://overunity.com/16317/the-beauty-of-timing-diagrams/msg470448/#msg470448

I notice that Brad takes exception if somebody that is a so-called "big gun" changes their analysis or adapts their analysis over time because of something that they did not think of before or because some new information becomes available.  Horror of horrors, that's just not permitted!

What i take exception to is being told i dont know what im talking about,and that i have nothing out of the ordinary taking place within my DUT. Then to have some one !!try!! and simulate my DUT,but are unable to achieve the same result's,and then say that they could achieve the result's if they tweak the sim a bit. When asked to do that,they then dont have the time,but in the next breath,they offer another challenge,where they now have the time to build an actual device,and post a video of the test and result's.

The next exception i take(after being told that what i believe is going on with my DUT is incorrect),is when a big gun decides that it may be possible that what i believe was going on could actually be what is going on-->and then credit is given to them for making this wonderful discovery. It's happened before,and it will happen again.

All i ask is for Poynt to finish his simulate version of my DUT,and repeat the result's of my DUT,as this is what he set out to do. I feel the reason that Poynt is trying his best to avoid completing his simulated version,and delivering the final result's,is because he cannot simulate the results i have with my DUT. To say he dosnt have the time !!IS!! a cop-out,as he seems to have the time for another challenge.

It's very easy to complete.
1-He either can and has got his sim to replicate the result's of my DUT-or
2-He says he cannot get his sim to replicate the result's of my DUT.
Why is he avoiding this?.

Maybe there is some one else out there that is well versed in simulations that could give it a go,and post there results from there simulated version?.


Brad

[tinman]

Why and what will that do for me?

According to Faraday's Law of Induction, if you get a waveform like that all above zero with an open coil that is not powered externally, then it means that the magnetic flux penetrating this coil is always increasing up and up and up....