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All Permanent-Magnet Complete Levitation

Started by guest1289, December 26, 2015, 03:35:54 PM

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SoManyWires

Quote from: Nink on February 07, 2016, 11:56:13 PM
I think we would all like to see some photos or video of your designs @sm0ky   I have played with permanent magnets for years but never had a chance to play  with diamagnetic materials to do permanent magnet levitation.  I believe this is an exciting area and I have been meaning to buy some Bismuth and melt it down and have a play.  I think we all know how we can get a permanent magnet to levitate, We could do this in a vacuum quite easily.  We could put copper around that vacuum chamber.  We could spin the magnet in that chamber....

yes, the fields of magnetics.
I too think this is worth much testing.
floating bearing systems, reduced friction and maintenance.
much force, how to unlock it using the right combination of actuator fields.
sounds simple enough, and many of us are simple enough to keep giving it the ol college try until something happens. should nothing happen, then stop doing it wrong so it might eventually work. lol

Nink

I just ordered a 100g of Bismuth on Amazon $17 Canadian Including shipping.  I haven't given the vacuum chamber any thought yet to remove friction from air resistance but I am sure I can work something out. Worse case it will make an interesting desk ornament at work.    old College try :-)  http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00ZQC6W1I 

SoManyWires

Quote from: Nink on February 08, 2016, 12:46:57 AM
I just ordered a 100g of Bismuth on Amazon $17 Canadian Including shipping.  I haven't given the vacuum chamber any thought yet to remove friction from air resistance but I am sure I can work something out. Worse case it will make an interesting desk ornament at work.    old College try :-)  http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00ZQC6W1I

Omni DIY Reply 6 years ago
Bismuth is also one of the most diamagnetic materials if I'm not mistaken. This makes it repellent to magnetic fields. If you hang a piece from a string and place a magnet near a side, that side should rotate away from that magnet. It doesn't matter what pole is facing it. If you form a thin sheet of bismuth and form a perimeter of magnets around the edge, you can also levitate it. 👈😨

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we are limited by dimentions of available manufactured magnets .

Howard Johnson used to buy factory produced magnets then cut them to suit the dimensions he needed .
this pic is of  2 ring magnets from a micro wave oven resting on a wooden stand .
as crude as it is , it is still a pretty good demo

guest1289

My designs are so simple,  anyone with access to suitable magnets,  could easily get them working.

I don't know why people have never published in books and internet etc,  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  contraptions,  you'd think they'd still be impressive,  no matter how much they vibrate etc.

Graphite ( pencil-lead )
If you want,  you can just put pencil-lead  which is actually  Graphite,   in the v space formed in between two long square-sided-neodymium magnets,   and it will levitate, with no problems,   it's on google image search . 
    It's possible that those lengths of graphite are very thin,  and the pictures are zoomed in,  if so,  you can easily buy affordable  'pyrolytic carbon'  or even  graphene on the main websites ,  I'm not sure how well graphene would work,  but there are all sorts of other diamagnetic materials too,

By using diamagnetic materials, it's incredibly easy to levitate things,  and diamagnetic-levitation is an exception to 'Earnshaw's Theory',  so your not achieving anything,  just with that levitation .

Yesterday I discovered an extra reason why I have just stuck with permanent-magnets,  and that is that with some small modifications,  some of my all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  designs,   could also be  magnet-motors,  thats in my posts today
http://overunity.com/15774/permanent-magnet-motor/msg473508/#msg473508

   I have just realized that my  'magnet-motor-2',     that the design of the  'individual stators'  in magnet-motor-2,     could be used to make the Magnetic-Sled mentioned above, gliding over arrays of tiny magnets spaced apart from each other,    to see if it could function as a magnet-motor,  like a reversal / inverse,  of magnet-motor-2 ,  and  much much easier to make .

I'm either interpreting your idea correctly, or improving it,  your going to cover the container in copper,  so all the vibration caused by the diamagnetic-levitation will sort of be reflected back onto the levitation magnets and diamagnetcs,  which could make the levitating magnet spin,  in effect,  a magnet motor .   
    In that case,  you should get an increase in the strength and performance of that overall reaction,  by not using any diamagnets,  just use permanent-magnets,   the  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  designs in the first post,   particularly the  Magnetic-Sled .
  (  The designs on the other thread containing my  slightly more complicated all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  designs,  which work at any angle in relation to gravity,   would be too stable for your idea  )

Why can't people post pictures of just the simplest  all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation  contraptions,  even though it is not stable levitation,  they still remain levitating,  without touching any other object
   
(   That picture of the 2 magnets out of a microwave,  is not full-levitation, it's touching the wooden axle .
     Even though it's almost impossible to buy magnets of the correct dimensions for   all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation,  your could use small button-shaped magnets to make the array of tiny magnets spaced apart from each other,  over which a  Magnetic-Sled  could levitate or glide .       On some magnet manufacturers websites,  they have a product that could serve as the Magnetic-Sled,  it's called some type of magnetic tray,  or tray magnet,  it's similar to,  and something to do with trays   )