Sticky point again

[CLaNZeR]

Hi TheVorlen

I am new to this myself and only stocked up with magnets and started milling out different size wheels a few weeks ago.
I have been interested in the theory of it all for years but have at last decided that the only way to understand the problems and stumbling blocks is to do the Practical.

You will soon discover as soon as you start playing that it does not matter what configuration you choose you always hit this sticky point where the force of the magnet stops the wheel in its tracks.
You can configure the magnets at different angles and see the power/torque increase but at the same time so does the force of the sticky point when hit!.

It simple enough to get around all these sticky points if you want to introduce an electrical magnet as with a little bit of timing, just simply switching this on and off at the precise moment will indeed get over the sticky point, but that defeats the idea of using just permanent magnets.
This is the same as simply holding a magnet and moving it backwards when the sticky point. The wheels I have played with spin so fast that my human reactions cannot move the magnet out of the way in time!!!
Physics tell you, that you will use up more force than created by using a mechanical way of moving the magnet back and forth fromt he sticky point, so I have not gone down that road yet, I mean yet!

My conclusion so far is that it is not the design of the wheel that is a mystery, you can set up magnets in pretty well any configuration to get the effect of movement but eventually ya gonna hit that sticky point.

So my quest at the moment is how to get past this sticky point and I like the idea of the thread using a 180hz pulse to cancel out the magnet as this will take not alot of power compared to using a electrical magnet, will get around to knocking up a circuit when time allows.
I think there has to be a lot of materials out there that have not been tested regards magnetic shielding ( Or magnetic Divert), so this is an area that I am heading down at the moment.

To me it is a bit of fun and I do not look at it in a commercial gain way as others, but if it can be cracked then what a gift to this world that needs it more than ever at the moment.

Have fun and these forums are a great source of info. The outside world will think you are mad, but within these forum walls you will be the norm LOL

Regards

Sean.

I'm a newbie here, and learning. So please bare with me for a bit.

That motor in the picture at the start of this thread is very similiar to what I was considering in my mind except that in my imagination there was not an Iron magnetic ramp. Now, what would happen in such a device with the SAME magnet configuration, but NO Iron magnetic ram? What would be the result? It can't be that simple, because I believe there must be one of those "sticky" points that would be a big problem in such a setup.

Could someone please explain this to me?

[thevorlon]

Clanzer,

Thanks so much for your reply!

I think I am understanding the concept of what a sticky point is (literally a point where the magnets themselves cause the wheel to stop) but not the CAUSE or REASON sticky points do what they do.

For example, take the image in the start of this thread. If you removed the iron bar and just left the magnet on the stator and the magnet on the rotor would there be a sticky point? If so, where? What would be causing it?

The problem probably is that I have not expeirmented yet, but in my mind in the above setup there should be no sticky point. Both magnets should repel each other, cause the wheel to move, and in a complete setup the wheel would accelerate.

I'm just not understanding the sticky point in this device.

Also, could explain to me exactly what is a magnetic flux gate?

[FreeEnergy]

The outside world will think you are mad, but within these forum walls you will be the norm LOL

Amen my brother. lol

[djancak]

hmmm reminds me of http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=751.0;attach=734

but yours looks more simple. thanks.

peace

could you post the URL to the thread that you got this from please

[FreeEnergy]

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,751.0.html