HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water

[stivep]

There is number of articles that  may discourage  experimenter:
The one below will tell you that  it is impossible to  gain from  it due to nature of THz band.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/military/the-truth-about-terahertz
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Confusion of the public is caused by this article broad assumption,
that behavior of EM wave can be  looked at all frequencies starting from 1THz and up as unified.
Instead of it experimenter should look at properties of particular EM frequency .
The higher we  go the bigger  is energy of  every single period measured in eV, keV, MeV, GeV.
Article of Carter M. Armstrong vice president of engineering in the electron devices division of L-3 Communications, from Aug17 of  2012 | 19:39 GMT 
doesn't mention anything about light  shooting at water and creating EM wave.
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So to get a 1-W signal, you might need to start with kilowatts of input power, or greater.

Wesley's  explanation:
Never more wrong statement could be said by a scientist.
Article suffers with totall lack  of  explanation of :
- THz antennas
-wave behavior in Near and Far field.
-wave behavior in the interface.
-analysis of photon from sun heating your body  so you feel warm due to its energy conversion to  heat.

EXAMPLE:
heating of 1 liter of water  for 1degree of Celsius  requires:
_Answer:
1 watt is = 24 calorie per second.
It takes 1000 calories to raise 1 liter of water one degree C.
So apply about 4000 watts for one second to do this.
_{EASY ENOUGH?
Can your body at 35 degree day , be  heated  for 1C up in 1 second?
https://www.quora.com/How-many-watts-are-required-to-raise-one-liter-of-water-by-one-degree-centigrade?top_ans=147118752}

How about if :
- you get 4kW/h of energy from that conversion?
  Your typical  household uses  ~ 6kW per day.


You don't need to build a source, but  use spectral purity  you need by applying filters and polarization to the source , and your source is for free.
A simple piece of ferrite with its metal particles at right size to resonate with 1/4 or  half wavelength may act  as an excellent antenna
These particles are already isolated by bounding  compound  in the process of creation of that ferrite.
Cheap plastic strip 1m long made for refrigerator magnets before magnetization can be used .
The stack of many of them creates multilevel of stack antennas for array.
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There are two forms of conversion of sun energy that may interest  us.
1.  heat energy per cubic m of heated water where  max  depth is ~5cm.
2. energy of THz wave triggered  by  light and than converted to electricity
_{We would be interested  in  that energy density  from the distance  compatible to near field of that frequency  in the water or  just right above  it, using  High Gain antenna ray .
However in near field this antenna ray may act  like a transformer due to electromagnetic coupling of energy but definitely wouldn't look like transformer.
Example:
At 4mm frequency - a quarter wave antenna will have  active quarter wave element = 1mm.
that is still possible to be build at home with 26 gauge,  having  cheap Chinese microscope glass that costs $50}

Wesley

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Coming back to original patent  allowing Electrolysis of water and decomposition  of  water into oxygen and hydrogen gas.
If it was patented  by inventor ( I didn't check  patent status) than mechanisms mentioned by me earlier applies.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130213&CC=GR&NR=1007830B&KC=B#
Inventor(s):  ZOGRAFOS PETROS EVANGELOU [GR]; SPILIOPOULOS IOANNIS DIMITRIOU [GR]  +
Applicant(s):  ZOGRAFOS PETROS EVANGELOU [GR]; SPILIOPOULOS IOANNIS DIMITRIOU [GR] 
Classification:  international: B01J19/12; B01J7/02; C01B3/04; C25B1/04 
cooperative:  B01J19/129 (GR); B01J7/02 (GR); C01B3/042 (GR); C25B1/04 (GR); Y02E60/36 (EP)
Application number: GR20120100234 20120430 
Priority number(s):  GR20120100234 20120430
Body of the patent application:

Novelty: There are disclosed a method and a device destined for water electrolysis and production of hydrogen to be used
as combustible by combination of high frequencies produced by semitonic oscillators; when mixed, reinforced and combined,
said frequencies contrive to break water into its elements (hydrogen and oxygen) upon influence of the coordination effect.
Secondary frequencies configurating the structure of the primary frequencies for obtaining adequately-combined frequencies
by means of the respective electronic circuit composed of an isolator, a mixer, a directional coupler, a multiplier, configurators,
digital frequency controllers, and linear amplifiers can be introduced with the assistance of adequate main and auxiliary treatment
equipment into the primary frequencies produced by the semitonic oscillators.
The vibration of water molecules and the breaking thereof into hydrogen and oxygen are obtained by suitably-coordinated frequencies.
The gases are, thereafter, separated by special sorting guides while the produced hydrogen is conducted through the respective
specific connection to the energy generation mechanism for being used as fuel.

Due to the presence of gas and water molecules in the atmosphere, electromagnetic wave travels more slowly,
and part of its energy is scattered or absorbed.
Some molecules present in a standard atmosphere are excited by the specific frequencies in the THz band.
An excited molecule internally vibrates, and as a result of this vibration, part of the energy of the propagating wave
is converted into kinetic energy and is simply lost.
and yes we are  interested  in this energy conversion.



Wesley

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here is  block schematic diagram:
-signal from filter 1 goes to  buffer2  (  capacitor)
-than is amplified by driver amplifier 3 ,
-than goes to mixer  with PLL loops 7 and 7' controlling  local    oscillators 5 and 5" whose frequency is modulated by modulators 6 and 6"
- after that frequency is changed x 26 and 
-than  is delivered to  the filter  10 like in regular heterodyne radio
-than we have directional coupler 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_dividers_and_directional_couplers
  interesting is that this coupler has 2 ports  where each one  goes
  to  amplifiers   12A and 12B
  It is  one way transmission only

- than  we have  two amplifiers  12A and 12B  delivering signal  at 180  degrees phase difference  to   the two  opposite antenna electrodes inside the HHO chamber
that signal is canceling itself inside of the chamber fluid.

The easiest way to understand it is  is to picture yourself  the cylindrical pipes one inside the other  where every second one is connected to  amplifier 12A
and every first one is connected to  amplifier 12B
Each of cylinders  must be  in resonance  with delivered  frequency and act  like load with the fluid inside.
So if  first  cylinder  of amplifier 12 is  inside  having small diameter fi  and being the tallest
than third  cylinder  of amplifier 12 is  having  much larger diameter fi  but  is smaller .
the   fifth   cylinder  of amplifier 12 is  having  much, much  larger diameter fi  but  is smaller than  first and  second
For me this is classical Stanley Meyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell


Unfortunately I don't speak  Greek Language  to tell you more.
But THz frequency is unlikely used there.

Wesley

[kolbacict]

you would take and replica this device. You have more opportunities for this.
Unlike us.

[Acca]

Wesley much gratitude for your efforts in these posts, it had to hours to compose these..

Acca..