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Another Magnetic Motor Claim

Started by markdansie, April 10, 2016, 09:32:25 PM

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conradelektro

Quote from: markdansie on April 10, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
Good luck with this one

http://revolution-green.com/free-energy-magnetic-motor-generator-1-10-kw/

Kind regards
Mark

The presentation in the video is completely useless from a scientific and business point of view.

1) If one wants to prove the functioning of this magnet motor in a scientific way, one would have to explain the principle which is exploited. And this is not even addressed in the video (besides claiming that it is permanent magnet motor). One would publish the principle in a way, that the scientific community can do the underlying measurements in an independent way. The goal would be to become famous for having discovered a new principle in nature. Money would come from publications and future employment in a research facility. Most likely the discoverer of the new principle will be eventually forgotten because more able people will take the discovery out of his hands.

2) If one wants to become rich with this motor, one should not show anything in public. One would try to convince an established motor manufacturer that the device is real, and this in complete secrecy. It will be hard to patent such a motor because one would have discovered a new principle in nature, which was not known before. One can patent specific embodiments exploiting a principle, but not the principle itself. A not yet known principle in nature is discovered (it was always there) but not invented. Eventually the new principle will be exploited by every one, it can not be contained, it would be too important.

So, the video is complete nonsense, it serves no useful purpose besides possible fraud.

Greetings, Conrad

verpies

How open are they to independent "black box" verification of this device by an outside party?

"black box" verification does not inspect what's in the box but what goes in and out of the box.  It produces a result known as energy density in J/kg or J/m3

conradelektro

Quote from: verpies on April 11, 2016, 07:52:04 AM
How open are they to independent "black box" verification of this device by an outside party?

"black box" verification does not inspect what's in the box but what goes in and out of the box.  It produces a result known as energy density in J/kg or J/m3

Who in his right mind would want to do a "black box" verification? That can never be a "verification". Verification is the opposite of "black box".

The way to do it: the investor or prospective manufacturer signs a non disclosure agreement and the black boxes are opened completely. The strip tease has to happen all the way and penetration including ejaculation has to happen. The investor or manufacturer has to be allowed to involve a reasonable number of experts in the strip tease and the union.

So, if an inventor proposes a "black box verification" walk away immediately.

Muammer Yildiz (Permanent Magnet Motor) always did a "black box demonstration" and no good came off it.

There is of course a fundamental problem in telling some one (even with an non disclosure agreement)  a newly discovered principle in nature. One can use a newly discovered principle in millions of ways and no one can patent every machine or component using the new principle. One can try to patent a number of machines and hope to establish a good position in the market before every one else catches on.

All important newly discovered principles (e.g. steam engine, petrol motor, Diesel motor, electric motor, transistor, nuclear fission, nuclear fusion) could never be safeguarded. After a short time everybody used it. Details of machines or components were patented, but nobody could dominate the market.

And if it is a world changing discovery, every military and every country has the duty to make it available to itself in the shortest possible time.

So, if you discover the principle behind a self turning permanent magnet motor, give it away immediately. This will save your life.

Greetings, Conrad

Johan_1955

Quote from: markdansie on April 10, 2016, 10:20:07 PM

What about the box holding the lights? ??? ???Lots of room there from batteries lol. We all wish they were real

At the end of the movie: Nothing below the lamps.

His other channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq_qGHzYorAsR4sYi3m50sA/videos

e2matrix

It is impressive how much work and expense has been put into building the larger 10kw units.  Why would he do that if it doesn't work?  Not impressive is the demo small unit powering 4 LED bulbs.  Those ARE LED bulbs that may consume as little as 6 to 8 watts each so probably only around 30 watts being consumed and that could be done with a Lithium battery in the bottom of the control box.  I don't think doing the video like he did is any reason to suspect a fake in itself.   Everyone likes attention for their work.   Also it seems this is not some garage builder but someone who has a sizable shop to produce a quality device.  Does anyone know where this person is located - appears to be foreign.