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Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?

Started by gravityblock, April 28, 2016, 12:14:07 PM

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Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc, Concave, or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?

The earth is a flat round disc!
The earth is a flat round disc with a dome!
The earth is a round speriical globe!
The earth is concave!

Magneticitist

lol.. silly, antarctica is where the entrance to Agartha is located, don't you know that?

anyway, that's a little too cold, and far, how about you be sporting enough to provide me an edge along what we know as the equator.

Here2njoy

As the band plays on.... www.flatearth.goesviral.net, www.AplaneTruth.info . Huge views on Youtube with players like ODD TV, Mark Mullin, DMurphy25, Dan Dimension, Mark Sargent, Eric Dubay.  All getting people to Question Everything!   I like it!.....  Even the President on the US has mentioned it in his speeches many times over the last several years.... Gotta love it.

TinselKoala

Quote from: gravityblock on May 08, 2016, 01:33:21 PM
Southern "Hemisphere" Constellations and the Southern Cross Explained by the flat earth model.  This has already been previously posted.

Gravock

You really are hilarious! That is the stupidest video I've seen in a long time. The person who made that video is totally ignorant of astronomy and simply lies when claiming that the Northern and Southern planispheres (sky maps) can be superimposed in that manner, with identical stars showing up near the respective Celestial Poles.  For example the Greater and Lesser Magellanic Clouds cannot be seen at all from most of the Northern Hemisphere but are prominent in the Southern night skies at the right time of year. And there is no star right at the Southern Celestial Pole, but Polaris is very near the NCP. There is no Octans constellation near the NCP but there is at the SCP. There is no Big Dipper pointing to Polaris at the SCP. There is no Southern Cross in the Northern sky. And on and on. Certainly there are some constellations near the Celestial Equator that can be seen from both hemispheres, but not near the Celestial Poles! That video was made by an ignoramus.

So Gravock your best "evidence" for your silly "flat-earth" comes from an old book of mythological fairy tales and some videos made by ignoramuses who can't even get their basic facts straight.

Meanwhile, this morning (in America) Mercury transited the face of the Sun, and this event (sadly not visible from Australia) was observed and recorded in many places. It was too cloudy here in the Southern USA but if the skies had been clear I would have observed it myself, as I observed and photographed the transit of Venus in 2012. Astronomers have used such transits of Mercury and Venus for many years to tell us about the nature of the Solar System. In 1716, the astronomer Edmund Halley proposed a method, using Venus transits, for determining the distance from the Earth to the Sun. They already knew enough at that early date to calculate when these rare transits would occur. So in 1761 and 1769, several international expeditions were mounted to locations where the transits of Venus could be observed precisely in order to make this measurement of the Earth-Sun distance.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18293989

Of course the "flat earthers" will just say that all this history and data is made up, a bunch of lies to fool people into believing... what? For what reason? This is why this is not a "discussion" at all, any more than one can "discuss" religion with a Jehova's Witness, a Mormon, or a Muslim. They are right and skeptics are wrong and there is nothing you can "discuss" that will make them believe otherwise. Or as a popular USA bumper sticker says, "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."  (And on the other bumper, "Protected by .357 Magnum" or some such.)

There are several good, FREE, planetarium programs that are available for download, that depict the night sky that one would see, without the hassle of clouds or light pollution. These programs even can interface with computerised telescope mounts to point the scope to the same part of the sky that is shown in the program, so the observer can see for him or herself that the program is a faithful representation of what is actually out there.
For Linux users, KStars works quite well. Others, for Linux, Windows, OSX, include Cartes du Ciel and Stellarium.

http://www.deepsky2000.com/cartes.htm
http://www.stellarium.org/

There are even versions that you can put on your tablet or cellphone, that will show you the stars in whatever part of the sky by "aiming" the phone at the sky.

I encourage "flat earthers" to download and explore these programs. You can then see for yourself that the northern and southern skies -- the planispheres talked about in the video above -- are nothing like each other and cannot be overlapped as the ignoramus claimed. I'm pretty sure these "flat earthers" don't have computerized telescopes so they will have to depend on their naked eye or binoculars to check their local night skies to assure themselves that the planetarium programs are telling them what is actually to be seen in the sky.



TinselKoala

Quote from: Magneticitist on May 08, 2016, 02:28:47 PM
lol.. silly, antarctica is where the entrance to Agartha is located, don't you know that?

anyway, that's a little too cold, and far, how about you be sporting enough to provide me an edge along what we know as the equator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVCnYcjOvA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CytI-FZN4xk

MileHigh

They are working overtime:

Kepler telescope discovers 100 Earth-sized planets

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36256725

It makes me sad for Carl Sagan because he passed away just as the discovery of planets started to take off.  And now of course we now know that there are billions and billions of them just in the Milky Way.

Apparently when the James Webb Space Telescope is launched (October 2018) they will be able to use the star transit technique to look for the signature gasses of life on other planets.  Although you can't be sure, it will still be a profound moment in world history if they do indeed find that.

And to think when I was growing up I always believed that it would be "impossible" to detect the presence of planets around far away stars.