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MH's ideal coil and voltage question

Started by tinman, May 08, 2016, 04:42:41 AM

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Can a voltage exist across an ideal inductor that has a steady DC current flowing through it

yes it can
5 (25%)
no it cannot
11 (55%)
I have no idea
4 (20%)

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MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on June 07, 2016, 08:52:21 AM
I only hope that people here,that want to learn fact from fiction,do not listen to what you have to say. The fact that you cannot put all your !claimed! knowledge into a practical build,and take me on in a small JT build off,just go's to show how little you actually know when it comes to putting your self acclaimed brilliance into action-->i think they call that !being full of hot air!.

Brad

Like I have mentioned many times in the past, I threw away all my power supplies, 4000 series CMOS chips, TTL chips, LEDs, switches, capacitors, 555 timers and breadboards many years ago, before you even knew what a transistor was.

I couldn't even build and test anything if I wanted to.  Even if I was fully equipped and had a nice bench, I still wouldn't build anything useless like you are suggesting.  Rewiring a motor to get back spikes or whatever it is you want to do is a useless endeavour.

Beyond all of this, there is another comment for you to ponder.  You are very frustrated because you couldn't answer the wine glass questions and you couldn't answer the first question about a power supply and one single component.  Note that these are two pretty generic subjects that can be discussed on a forum and it is pretty much a level playing field, the only thing you need to know is some pretty basic physics and electronics knowledge.

To "get back at me" you are challenging me to do something that you have been doing for years and are very familiar with, hacking into motors and watching them spin.  You want to "funnel" me into doing something that is in your comfort zone that you have lots of experience with.  To make it a fair "build challenge" it would have had to be to build something that neither of us had built before, and see what happens in that case.

You are just trying to make a transparent attempt to stack the dice in your favour, that's what is behind all of your whining to get me to build some useless motor contraption.  It's something you do all the time.  The whole idea was a non-starter from the very beginning.

My actions are my words on this forum, and that is a level playing field for everyone.

I also found it ironic that I gave you and the other builders a great and fun build challenge - using some supercaps and a pulse motor and a pulley of your own design, see who can build the most efficient system for lifting up a weight.  It encompasses real mechanical and electrical design and the output is measurable work.  And you had nothing to say, just blank stares.

MileHigh

tinman

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MileHigh


QuoteRewiring a motor to get back spikes or whatever it is you want to do is a useless endeavour.

I will only respond this this part of your large ramble.
If only you knew how wrong you are.
But you will never learn that,because like i said--you are to far gone to allow any further education.
The fact that you believe that a PM can do no useful work,is your biggest stumbling block,and your ultimate road to no where.


Brad

MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on June 07, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
author=MileHigh link=topic=16589.msg485958#msg485958 date=1465333973]

I will only respond this this part of your large ramble.
If only you knew how wrong you are.
But you will never learn that,because like i said--you are to far gone to allow any further education.
The fact that you believe that a PM can do no useful work,is your biggest stumbling block,and your ultimate road to no where.

Brad

Well it's pretty obvious that you can't cope with the fact that there are two perfectly valid definitions for "resonance."  The true definition that I am stating and the second "resonant system response" definition that you falsely believe is the only definition.  It's the Krazy Glue in your brain that keeps you obsessively stuck to the second definition because accepting the true definition would make your mind snap.

It's a joke that you allege that I am too far gone to allow any further education when you and others were stuck like glue to a limited definition of an ideal voltage source and you practically had to be pried away from your incorrect fixation.  I am always willing to learn, and my knowledge means I also have a good functioning BS filter.

Your blind belief that magnets can do useful work results in you doing pulse motor and related experiments and leading yourself down a garden path.  It has already happened many times.

The biggie is your famous "rotary transformer."  The thought experiment goes like this:  You send it to Poynt and within two days max he finds your mistake and then it's all over and time to move on.

MileHigh

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on June 07, 2016, 08:32:02 PM
Well it's pretty obvious that you can't cope with the fact that there are two perfectly valid definitions for "resonance."  The true definition that I am stating and the second "resonant system response" definition that you falsely believe is the only definition.  It's the Krazy Glue in your brain that keeps you obsessively stuck to the second definition because accepting the true definition would make your mind snap.

It's a joke that you allege that I am too far gone to allow any further education when you and others were stuck like glue to a limited definition of an ideal voltage source and you practically had to be pried away from your incorrect fixation.  I am always willing to learn, and my knowledge means I also have a good functioning BS filter.

Your blind belief that magnets can do useful work results in you doing pulse motor and related experiments and leading yourself down a garden path.  It has already happened many times.

The biggie is your famous "rotary transformer."  The thought experiment goes like this:  You send it to Poynt and within two days max he finds your mistake and then it's all over and time to move on.

MileHigh

The fact that you base your conclusion that magnets cannot do useful work on what has been seen so far,is proof that you have a closed mind,and simply follow like a sheep.
The second fact is,you do not know what the magnetic force is,and there for cannot make any accurate claims about any sort of potential a magnet has. It is like your trying to claim you know the top speed of a car,without knowing what kind of car it is. You base your assumption on what others have mannaged so far,but they are in the same boat as you-they too have no idea as to what the magnetic force is,and there for-like you,cannot make any accurate conclusion as to what that magnetic force can do.

My offer still stands MH-if you wish to challenge me to a rotoverter build,and see who actually has the better understanding of magnetic fields working in conjunction with inductors, then i will be more than happy to send my device-along with yours,for poynt to judge who's device is more efficient.
You have this in writiing right here.
But we know you will use any excuse under the sun,to avoid going up against me--to scared to take on the man you continuously  put down.


Brad

minnie




  I reckon I can shift crap faster that MH. and tinman combined can
   come up with it.
           John.