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car energy consume improvements

Started by lancaIV, July 02, 2016, 07:40:03 AM

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lancaIV

Many E. U. cities will reduce street velocity to 30 Km/h max. !
Commuter cars will become the"city-/urban mobile" solution :
an example how from "standart modell" vehicle modifying can change performance and competitive price :
https://www.twizy-forum.de/projekte-twizy/83216-100-km-das-ist-kein-scherz-mehr?start=135

lancaIV

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Franz+hawlitschek&IN=&CPC=&IC=
From this publication
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910801&CC=DE&NR=4022622A1&KC=A1#

" Minikraftwerk B"

he,Haeusler Zsolt,took this design :https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#

Not the generator nominal value important but the given nominal electric drive value , but strictly - velocity/mass related :
                      FOR URBAN CARS, IC engine to e- drive conversion : nominal 1,5 KW electric

Instead conventional electric motor :
A.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Roberto+catalan&IN=&CPC=&IC=
3. Catalan only applied  his motor invention for the US commercial market, not international = no WO grant !
B.http://maddsci.tripod.com/george/id10.html
With 3-4 KWh battery or ultra- battery pack equipped converted  e-city cars !

lancaIV

12500 Km drive per annum means : 200 working days ~ 62,5 km/day and divided by 365 days ~ 35 Km/day

A soft hybrid- kit for ic-engine car to ic/electric car conversion with 100 Km range ( later Option : up to 500 Km)
                                 2013 !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Frp-online.de%2Fnrw%2Fstaedte%2Fduisburg%2Fein-visionaer-mit-pechstraehne_aid-15120225
Advantage : no GHG-emission during electric drive ( City clean air act!)

How much nominal cinetic power needs an hybrid electric drive. ?
Following this" ic-engine car to electric car conversion"  :  1,5 KW nominal AC motor(4000 RPM) to mechanic torque                                                               FOR USE AS CITY CAR                     

                without anymore the ic- engine and parts weigt : up to 120 Km/h velocity !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#

With ic-engine the electric motor nominal power/torque (Nm).need ?

ZERO EMISSION CITY DRIVE is easy to reach !
Car-share with converted used "hybrid-kit cars"  !?
So also in estates with 200 cars/sqkm density 1/1000 Land area for fuel bio-crop becomes sufficient  !

The worldwide new "zero City emission car" price challenge : 5000 Euros
based by Renault Kwid basic costs and estimated 1500 Euros for the Manfred Sonntag " hybrid kit"
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRenault_Kwid
Okay, after " Security"-improvements : 0-3 stars from 5 is actually not enough. !

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fecomento.de%2F2019%2F07%2F11%2Fe-go-mobile-gruender-schuh-der-kunde-will-keine-elektroautos%2F
But when we get "zero GHG emission" for cities = no combustion,what is the solution for the car user if not hybrid  ?


lancaIV

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#
car weight without ic-engine ?
1,5 KW nominal AC electric motor and  ??? up to 120 Km/ speed ?
For comparison :
700 Kg new electric car,  3,5 KW nominal electric motor, 30-50 Km/h speed  !

https://hkshinepeak.en.made-in-china.com/product/gSPmIbnvOipu/China-New-Energy-Sightseeing-Bus-Adult-Electric-Car-Electric-Car-Oil-Electric-Car-Four-Car-SUV-Electric-Vehicles-Town-Electric-Car.html
This street legal Chinese electric car can be the base for

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#
" 1000 Watt electric consume per hour and 117 Km/h " as numeric drive information

experiments  !

Minimum velocity for highway drive : 50 Km/h and average  100 Km/h so reachable !

Porquer + 4 x e-power saving motors + Tanaka Saburo static gen-set : 2000 Euros drive system price

Instead T.Saburo static gen-set :

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#
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"FORMULA 1 KWH " 4-seater World competition/challenge : AUTODROME ESTORIL/PT

On-board 1 KWh battery or capacitor capacity : how long the drive range with which average velocity. ?

TARGET : 1 KWh :1000 Kilometers and more by 100 Km/h average velocity = 10 h +

lancaIV

Quote from: lancaIV on September 05, 2019, 05:58:13 AM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1#
car weight without ic-engine ?
1,5 KW nominal AC electric motor and  ??? up to 120 Km/ speed ?

For comparison :


3000 Watt AC electric motor, up to 50 Km/ h speed  !

https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/City-use-4-wheel-new-solar-60732955155.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.15.4ca54e19ElRFrV

700 Kg New electric car, 3,5 KW nominal electric Motor, 30-50 Km/h speed  !

https://hkshinepeak.en.made-in-china.com/product/gSPmIbnvOipu/China-New-Energy-Sightseeing-Bus-Adult-Electric-Car-Electric-Car-Oil-Electric-Car-Four-Car-SUV-Electric-Vehicles-Town-Electric-Car.html
This street legal Chinese electric car can be the base for

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#
" 1000 Watt electric consume per hour and 117 Km/h " as numeric drive information

experiments  !

Minimum velocity for highway drive : 50 Km/h and average  100 Km/h so reachable !

Porquer + 4 x e-power saving motors + Tanaka Saburo static gen-set : 2000 Euros drive system price

Instead T.Saburo static gen-set :

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#

or https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#
           ------------------------------------------------------

"FORMULA 1 KWH " 4-seater World competition/challenge : AUTODROME ESTORIL/PT

On-board 1 KWh battery or capacitor capacity : how long the drive range with which average velocity. ?

TARGET : 1 KWh :1000 Kilometers and more by 100 Km/h average velocity = 10 h +