Magnets, motion and measurement

[Floor]

Hi Norman

The blocking or "shielding" magnet  can be inserted and / or remove without doing work against magnetic forces.
This is because the attraction and repulsion are in balance, but that balance exists along certain lines of travel only.

When the shielding is in place...  the outer magnets are neutral to each other and also neutral to the shielding magnet,
but this absence of force / neutrality  is along a certain line of travel / directions only.

All magnets must be in precise alignment (centered and squared)
All motions must be at precise right angles.

               floor


 

[norman6538]

Floor I am working on the measurements today. I use two neos in repel mode
about half an inch apart where it has a good bit of repel force. Then I use 2 Radio
Shack ceramic mags with  the hole in the center for the repel canceler.
It has some edge sticky spot problems and is very sensitive to get balanced
so it does not attract nor repel. It clearly looks like it takes less force to release the
repel than the repel force work would do.
Attached is a photo. I have a video of the edge sticky spot but I'll work on the
work out measurements now.

On the right you can see a red line which is where the 2 blocker magnets join
and you can see right below it one of the neos that is held in place by the metal.
On a separate setup I found that 3 washers can be lifted 1/4 inch from 1/2 inch to
3/4 inch. So if the work in is less than that it will be overunity.
Remember this is just rapid prototype and crude testing of the basic principle so
don't laugh at it.

My measurements are 150% out for 100 in. Which is OU but when you have to
reset the device to repeat the work multiplied it will not have enough extra to do
that which agrees with other OU devices that I have made. So unless the work in
or work out can be increased it will not self run.

But Floor you have worked diligently and found another permanent magnet OU
device.
Floor, with your skills I believe you can improve that to maybe 200 or 250%.
The problem is you need a small gap to get max repel work out.
And that takes precise embodiment.


Norman

[norman6538]

I tweaked the balance today and got it up to 1.92 OU - in work = 1  out work = 1.92
and it takes less to move it back so there is a good bit of hope on this.

Norman

[Floor]

@Norman6538

High precision in alignment
         and
equality of the strength of the magnets used
       are critical to the functioning.

The shielding magnet needs to be roughly the field strength
equivalent of the fixed and output magnets combined.

         best wishes
                 floor

[norman6538]

Floor, yes I realize equal magnets are crucial but the ceramic shield
does work due to the distance and they are thinner than the domino mags.
I use 3/8 in neos which reach far but are smaller than the ceramics.
I had no square neos to use.
And since the reset takes less work it just might self run.

If that works then ganging them together would create some
significant work out.
As Archamedies said "Yaricka"  sp? but I had my clothes on when I said "Yaricka" .

Floor, what is your next step?
I will try some other magnets but I will not modify this device because
I have had working things that got disturbed and modified and never
worked as good again. Its called "the Bollinger lesson".
I have my original pendulum that goes up further than its dropped point
in a box so it can be observed as it worked.
See my attached principle drawing without the pivoting part.

Norman