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Magnets, motion and measurement

Started by Floor, October 31, 2016, 09:11:43 PM

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dieter

Very interesting, Floor. Did you injure your thumb between them magnets? :)


Now as usual, only measurements will tell whether there is any real gain. Which I hope very much.


Maybe you need to do the rasterization of push/pull force at any millimeter of both, shield motion and repulsion of both stacks.


But I take it you mean it when you say it's "very easy" to remove the shield.

Floor

 @Dieter

A magnet in close proximity to the coil changes the characteristics
of the coil.  The inductance (reluctance at the start of current flow) and
(reactive voltage spike, once  the voltage is turned off)  are both changed. 

It's difficult to demonstrate that precisely the same amount of electrical power
would be transferred in each of the two scenarios.

There are years of argument on the forum over this subject.

This is why I stick to force and displacement by magnets.

These basics physical properties and their measurement can not be disputed  ....
at least not REASONABLY.

          The thumb is doing fine.
              regards
                      floor

dieter

@Floor, of course, the all PM drive is the Holy Grail of free energy. But I am so desperste, I take everything that brings me closer to the aim.


Collapsing field can be useful, if the coil is turned off right when the magnet passes it eg.: attract by DC pulse, then repell by collapsing fields Back MMF.


Or the Back MMF of collapsing field can be suppressed by a diode.


There is a Lenz drag, but it is a secondary (=weaker) field, opposing not the input power, but the PM, and this only partially.


Whatever science says, never forget: Mankind is stupid and perfectly capable of missing fundamental basics.


Also when it comes to PMs, so it is really the attitude that makes us progressive, inspired or resigning. We crashed on the planet of the apes and we were just told by the ape leaders that "Magnetism" is delusional nonexisting nonsense...


Despite their fancy parade uniforms, I tend to question the truth in every word, coming from those leaders. Because they shaped this world.


Ahh, I' babbling ^^


You know I never lost hope. I may do some alternating hobby activities, so I don't slip into a manic free energy fixation (just because that's not enjoyable), but I never gave up hope. Because hope dies last.


kr

Floor

@Dieter

I'm not done yet either.

I'll put together / refine the next section  of the
magnets motion and measurements book (this topic).
That next section will begin with constant force over distance,
and integration of a force changing with distance explanations.
.........................
Then I'll do a presentation of a measurement set of the magnetic force shield,
(in that topic) and also in the (all magnet motor TD based topic).

                regards
                      floor

Floor

@All readers

          Here is my most recent revision of part one of the
                  "Magnets motion and measurement"   book.

It is still undergoing revisions and corrections.  The most recent
changes begin at the last section of page 43, and continue through
page 45's upper part.  That new / corrected material gives an explanation of
and breadown down of,  the formula Ek = 1/2 mass x velocity^2.

This is a work in progress.

Corrections to and inputs to the pjoject are welcomed.
Thanks again, to those who have allready contributed.

I now consider part one as complete.

Part 2 is in the works.

                       Please find the attached file "MeasPhy(10-T).pdf file.

                regards
                          floor