TD replications

[citfta]

Ayeaye,


Is English not your native language?  I don't understand why you are having problems with Norman's drawing and explanation.


He clearly has said that by letting a weight drop 1 cm it moves the left magnet closer to the right magnet.  The right magnet then twists and lifts 20 times the first weight to a height of 2 cm.  1 unit of work in gives 40 units of work out.


Than he explains the weight on the far left is 2 times the original weight.  When he lets it drop a distance of 2.5 cm it resets the left magnet back to the left and the right magnet untwists causing the 20 times weight to fall back the 2 cm.


So 1 unit of work in gives 40 units of work out.  And then 5 units of work is used to reset the device.  Clearly he has taken plenty of measurements.


Carroll

[ayeaye]

Ayeaye,


Is English not your native language?  I don't understand why you are having problems with Norman's drawing and explanation.

I'm sorry, this doesn't help, you should also know that ayeaye's live in madagascar.

How are the magnets initially oriented, where are their poles? How do they twist? One magnet turns or both magnets turn? Not to talk, the right magnet drawn as skewed, what does it mean, is it made of some magnetic rubber?

[norman6538]

Ayeaye

First if you go back to what Floor did in his many drawings you will see that when two magnets are placed down flat on a table edge to edge they will either attract at the edge or repel.

Second then if you pick them up and leave them edge to edge and twist on 90 degrees they will resist that twist if they were attracting each other.

Third pull them straight apart widening the gap between them and you will see as Floor said almost no force and

Fourth push them together and likewise you will feel no resistance as they approach each other but you will feel the twist.

That is what Floor tested and demonstrated and what I claim is 1 unit of work in giving 40 units of work out from the twist that Floor described. In my case I start small and used the RadioShack rectangular ceramic magnets that have a hole in the center. You can buy them at Lowes and Homedepot.

Play with them and you will see. Then make a mount for one to rotate but not move end to end and then measure that  rotation. You have to limit the twist because if you go too far you will be locked together N to S.

If you look at the drawing and then do these experiments it should be very clear.

My first measurements came in about 400-500% extra but I tweaked that quite a bit in the last week.

Norman

[ayeaye]

Ok, two magnets against each other, side by side, attracting, right? I twist one 90 degrees, this takes energy. Then there is no attraction between the magnets. But when i release the magnet, it twists back the 90 degrees, which gives back the energy taken by the initial twist. So where is overunity? The second twist gives more energy than the first twist gets, really?

[norman6538]

You did not listen to what I told you to do. Re read what I said and study it with the drawing.
The input  is moving the magnets first apart to untwist and then back together to twist.
And that work is very slight. That almost free  twist becomes the output. 1:40 ratio

Norman