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Overunity Machines Forum



TD replications

Started by Floor, November 18, 2016, 11:14:23 AM

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gotoluc


To everyone


Please keep in mind that this topic was created by floor for replicators and people who would like to have a discussion about a replicated device.
With that said, here would not be the place to discuss your general opinions or obtain information about the magnet Twist Drive effect.


Here is floor's original topic "Work from 2 magnets > 19%" which should be used for general discussions:
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/


and another topic called "Magnets, motion and measurement" was created for beginners to discuss basic physics:
http://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/


Thanks for your cooperation


Kind regards


Luc

Here2njoy

this 90% rotation effect reminds me of http://www.kundelmagnetics.com/
force and reciprocation.

gotoluc

Quote from: Here2njoy on November 30, 2016, 12:54:32 PMthis 90% rotation effect reminds me of http://www.kundelmagnetics.com/force and reciprocation.


Looks to me like the same principle. Guess they never compared the two forces?


Quote from: webby1 on November 30, 2016, 01:29:23 PM
Hi Luc,

I will watch the video again but I do not see the included cost of resetting the torque arm.


Both engaging and disengaging (resetting) are there in my video and also posted above.


Below is an input Torque chart I just now made.


Luc

gotoluc

Here is test 2 demo which has a higher torque output of now 3 ft/lb by reducing the magnet air gap, however, interestingly enough the overall efficiency is the same as test 1


Link to test 2 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0POfohSjQk


Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: webby1 on November 30, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
What is the actual degrees of rotation and the actual arm lengths,, just if I want to have the particulars close,

The input arm has 80 degrees of travel and output is has 40 degrees. Both arms are exactly 12 inches from center of axle to where the scale attaches

Quote from: webby1 on November 30, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
With the system in the disengaged condition,, how much are you putting in to reset the output arm?

If I was to use the gained torque from the output to reset the output arm back up but keep in mind this is not what the test device was designed to do, as the device sits now, it would takes an average of 0.4 foot pounds from the 0.44 foot pounds left over.
This amount could easily be reduced in less than half with no extra from the input or even possibly eliminated with a design to do such a thing.
I'm sure there are better ways to go about it then bringing the output arm back up. This is what the Sunny Miller device is attempting to do. Keep it circulating.

Quote from: webby1 on November 30, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
The weight of the arms does not matter since the in and out relative to the source of force,, gravity,, is exactly the same they cancel, but you still have a field interaction that will be influencing the disc rotating.

I agree and I think it has been addressed in the test 2 video


Quote from: webby1 on November 30, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
ETA:
Just as a ball park guesstimate I think you will find an average of around .917 above the weight of the arm to reset,,
I will double check that


Not far for a guesstimate


Luc