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Magnet force shield

Started by Floor, January 21, 2017, 11:14:49 AM

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Floor

@Cairun

         I didn't miss the FEMM files you posted.  But I did miss
responding to them.  Sorry.  Better late than never.
Yes it seems that offset is necessary   as ... and for   the reasons
you have stated .... and as the FEMM files seem to confirm.
                  thanks
                its appreciated
                         floor

dieter

When you watch the full shield femm render above, note the shield area has two sections: one many fieldlines, one few. Few means repelling, many is attracting.


So they cancel eachother out. It does indeed shield. But the question is, how much force is required to move the shield in and out.


kr

Floor

@Dieter

Odds are .... that

the convention that the magnets will give rise to a conservative
work interaction,  holds true under the above conditions.

work in = work out except for losses.

It remains that, the only interactions I have seen ...
         that may not be.... are

       1. the original TD
               and I think also
       2.  one variation of LaFont's pseudo solid stuff.

I just may do, a new measuring sets for the original TD interactions,
and see what I see in  light of what I've learned in the last few months.

dieter

Two things have been proven:


law of energy conservation is wrong. Many unexplicable energy sources discovered, such as Zero Point Energy, which describes a yet unknown energy source, that keeps helium liquid at zero degrees kelvin ( as per standard theory, it should be solid/frozen.


Second: mankind is selectively stupid and ignorant, esp. in Masses and within hierarchical doctrines... easily capable of missing a couple of things.




I think, while using the verified work of others is fine, one MUST disbelieve in socalled accepted belief. How can we say out=in-losses if science even remotely doesn't understand magnets.


Therefor this "uh, they might be right after all" in the back of ones head surely adds to failure and frustration. But this no free lunch attitude they indoctrinate rather religiously, is from a scientific point of view, simply wrong.


Before it's a miracle. After it's science.

Floor

@Dieter

It's interesting that....

of    ALL     of these projects in the last several months.....
under the headings of

"TD replications",

"magnetic force shield"
           and
"all magnet motor (TD based)"

NOT ONE OF THEM is based upon the original twist drive design

No one has actually presented a  close replication of / presentation of
the Twist Drive design.

Lots of looking around at conservative interactions, but still no replication as of yet

Lumens experiments used neo magnets rather than ceramics and his presentation lacked
all the details of his parameters and of his methods used.  Other wise they were closer
to being a replication than any other "tests" were.

I've been all through it now, by  Looking at conventional interactions and finding
conventional results.. This including a working "magnet force shield" (non OU)
But effectively shielding nun the less.

It seems we are compelled to look into what does not work.... just perhaps
because the principles are familiar or known....

Why the TD works is unknown / speculative.... unfamiliar...

Pseudo Solid principle may be OU as well..   

I see some similarity underlying each of those ..... (random to order)...

Below in a PDF file is user Gamma Ray burst's basic concept (as I understand it).
It.... to my knowledge remains unmeasured at this time !

Please find below  the attached "PS principle 6-2 PDF" file

   regards
          floor