Magnet force shield

[norman6538]

Floor, I did a very simple test. The 1st attached photo has 2 repelling magnets in a rectangular tube and you can see the one is lifted up by the repel force to a gap of about 2 inches.. I then placed the magnet stack in between the two magnets and the top magnet  does not drop down.

The second photo shows the magnets clamped in place with a magnet stack between them. When the top clamp is removed the top magnet goes up clearly meaning to me that the repel force is still there.

The magnet stack does move in and out very easily but it does not kill the repelling force which is what I wanted to use to do work.

I said nothing about the validity of your ideas. I only said my test did not show the repel being killed/shielded.

I wish someone else would do the same simple test and show me wrong.

Norman

[Floor]

A demonstration of the neutralization of the repelling force between two magnets (A and B)....
by creating a balance between both the attractions and repultions to a third magnet
which is placed between said  two magnets A andB).

           video link @

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5an8hd_rtangsld2_tech

                                         floor

[Floor]

@Webby1   and   citfta

Thanks for your inputs.  Yes I'm committed to doing good science.

Although things have gotten much better than they once were here at O.U......

Once bitten twice shy. 

I'm still sometimes in too much of a defensive mode, here (others are as well I think).
Many trolls are highly knowledgeable, and effective.
A two week long multi troll siege on ones topic is not much fun.

I prefer to keep my topics available to the non expert ( as I am non expert myself).
This presents its own kinds of  difficulties. 

A lot of non expert people don't get it that science's methods are so that we might
arrive at the facts / truth.

I welcome expert advice, expertly, non expert presented. smile

                             best wishes
                                       floor

[dieter]

Hi Floor, haven't been here for a while. Good to see you're on to something.


If you consider polar attraction/repulsion and field alignement as two seperate forces then this may indeed open up many "nonconservative" opportunities.


For instance the angular alignement force or torque generated when you try to push together two magnets with parallel poles, is defined by their strenght. If you allow the magnet to twist only by 90 deg., then you can pull these magnets appart without force, other than to overcome gravity, where the mentioned torque is not dependant on or linked to the physical weight of the magnet, in fact it may be much stronger.


Probably I misunderstood "TD", but I see a potential there. In both, shielding (tho not in the simple way some think) and torque versus attraction discrepancy.
Regards

[Floor]

@Dieter

Yes, long time no see.  Good to hear from you.

TD stands for "twist drive".  That original  experiment / design led to an
understanding, which allowed things to evolve into what I call the "pass through versions".

All though the two designs may seem almost unrelated... the underlying
cause of the differences between the work in and work out are the same reasons.

Its something of a contradiction in terms.... to call on over unity device inefficient, but  if
I compare the original "TD" design to the "pass through versions", that word is what
I'm left with.

There are  lots and lots of drawings / descriptions on the (related topics).  All of these recent
presentations have been done on the fly, so there are  plenty of mistakes and misstatements
in those topics.  Some of them remain unaddressed, sorry.

The forum member GoToLuc did a really great set of presentations, and we shared in
some of the most recent discoveries./ co discoveries.

I left the math / force integration and explicit / precise measurements behind at a certain
point in time, just so I could focus on design evolution.  I realize that another round
of precise measurements should to be forth coming.

Those related topics are listed (above some where) in this topic.

                    regards
                       floor