Sm0ky2's modified Voss Machine

[sm0ky2]

@Grumage


Thank you for your post and interest in these machines


As TK mentioned, the induction process works in all kinds
of configurations, including cylindrical devices.


While my build is intended to be simple, for beginners to
Build and test this technology - I have experimented
with and studied others musings about the ideas you
mention.


You can indeed increase the charge on the inductors by
Adding a secondary capacitative plate behind it.
In theory the same could be done on the rotating plate.


Adding a second rotating plate opposite the stationary
inductor, is more beneficial as it results in a doubling of
The collected charge.
This can be extended to a long shaft including many plates
Connecting the output in parallel provides a large current.


There really is no limit to the complexities of these machines
Other than the force required to turn the pieces.

[shylo]

Hi Smokey, The reason I was asking is because my rotor will self run for 1/2 hour.
I was hoping to add the 2 plates to the rotor and just put the stationary next to it to collect the charge to help top up my caps , to extend my run time.
Just not sure how to incorporate this with my rotor.
artv

[Grumage]

Hi Smokey, The reason I was asking is because my rotor will self run for 1/2 hour.
I was hoping to add the 2 plates to the rotor and just put the stationary next to it to collect the charge to help top up my caps , to extend my run time.
Just not sure how to incorporate this with my rotor.
artv

Dear artv.

Video please !!   

We can always fast forward !!   

Cheers Graham.

[conradelektro]

Since the topic is electrostatic machines, I want to draw attention to the electrophorus which is the most simple electrostatic machine.

I could find a few little modifications (HV diodes and HV capacitors) which render the electrophorus a little bit more useful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notE4ugcgvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLCp68VX7NE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzoUiZnR5QA

Note, the little modifications turn the electrophorus into a continuously working electrostatic machine (by moving the top plat up and down a few millimetres) producing a series of positive spikes (lifting to top plate) and then negative spikes (putting the top plate down again). No opening and closing contacts are neccessary (as in the original electrophorus which needs "grounding" of the top plate after every "stroke").

The idea is to eventually come up with a "turning" electrostatic machine which avoids brushes and contacts. Remember, the mother of all electrostatic machines is the electrophorus. All turning electrostatic machines are some sort of "doublers" which add up small charges.

Greetings, Conrad

P.S.: I want to repeat what Tinselkoala has writen, the web site http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/electrostatic.html is the best collection of electrostatic machines one can find at the moment. It will take you months if not years to learn what is offered. You will spare yourself years of research by studying this web site. It contains more or less all the knowledge about electrostatic machines there is so far. Also references to many papers.

Research essentially stopped in the 60ies with the Van de Graaff Generator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator. HV diodes, capacitors and even HV transistors nowadays allow for Voltage doubler circuits (instead of electrostatic machines) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_doubler if one needs High Voltage as in magnetic resonance imaging.

[Cherryman]

If Smokey is ok with it, we talk about electrostatic some more.


Here is a nice interview with John Trump ( Yup, "the Uncle" )
( Who worked with Van der Graaff as a mentor ! )


They briefly touch the subject of using electrostatic engines as a power-source in space.
But it look's like the interviewer does a subtle job of putting that to rest very quickly.


https://youtu.be/wozw24RACZ8?t=27m56s


Interesting stuff. 


( I do recommend for the curious mind you see this whole interview )