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Searching for Buddy in promising magnet motor Project.

Started by dieter, February 05, 2017, 04:14:19 PM

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Thaelin

Hi Dieter:
   Not sure these are the type of magnets you want but are close to the size and multiple thickness up to .25
KJ Magnetics has them and sizes and price follow:
    BY0Y01      2.00 X 2.00 X .0625   $ 9.36
    BY0Y02      2.00 X 2.00 X .1250   $15.41
    BY0Y04      2.00 X 2.00 X .2500   $2747

These are magnetized through the thickness or the faces

Hope that might help you out. They are real prompt in mailing out the orders as I have used them in the past.

thay

dieter

Thaelin, thanks a lot. See my latest design in the pdf, attached above, which does not require very thin magnets anymore, but common sizes will do.
Still, thanks.

kr

guest1289

I never build anything, so I don't know how valid my comments are

when the stator and the rotor align :
  - the  'Rotor-iron C-core' , which is to divert the magnetic-flux-path of the 'Stator-magnet' that moves into it,    that  'could  be the main part where the motor would get stuck, 
       - Although,  I assume it does not divert all of the magnetic-flux-path
       -  maybe instead of the 'Rotor-iron C-core', you could  affect  the 'Stator-magnet'  with diamagnetics,  or,  whatever other ways

I have always wondered what are the  pulse-motors  that are continually mentioned on this site,  and other similar sites ,   I wonder if this motor  is what they mean by  pulse-motor

However, I now get the impression that  magnet-motors( if any work, I never built my  magnet-motor-3.5, or any at all ) are only worthwhile as impressive novelties,  they have no practical potential / application,  since any magnets will wear out

I was thinking of maybe starting my own thread,  just to type my own vague  version of your idea( or is this what they mean by pulse-motors ), 

dieter

Hi Guest, thanks for your interest. Basicly, the C-core of the rotor, that temporarily steals the flux of the stator, is ferromagneticly attracted. This causes high friction losses, but does not consume energy magneticly, because basicly attraction is the same on both sides.


Furthermore the significant, special feature here is a naturally high fieldstrength in the coil/magnet stator, that is lowered by the rotor, hence the term negative induction. This very reversal of induction principle opens up a whole bunch of exploitable opportunities to overcome the flaws of conventional designs.


Well, it's really simple, a C-Core, couple of magnets, iron bars, a coil.


A pulse motor is something very diffrent, usually refers to a Motor that has electromagnets (coils) that get short DC pulses from a Transistor or other timing device, often they use rather the collapsing field than the pulse itself, to gain efficiency. Like eg. Bedini SSG.


I would be thankful if you do not start a new thread, based on my design unless you really understand it and you can offer an optimation. Mind you I am working for years on this. It would hurt to see it screwed in such a way. Its currwnt ignorance hurts already, but knowing there are some people, just reading, makes it worth at all.


To understand this concept requires not much.
Magnetism and Induction. There is even the "I still don't get it" section, I hope you didn't skip that? ^^


Once you or anybody understands this design, I can guarranty it will make you understand pretty much all magnet motors, and if or why they may work or not.

guest1289

yes,  your explanation of how the  'Rotor-iron C-core'  will  not cause the rotor to stay stuck to the stator seems logical,  as best as I can visualize it

the design in the thread I'm about to post,  is not related to your design
( your design reminded me of  the term  pulse-motors, I have been wanting to post ideas about  pulse-motors  in general ) 
               
Prior to your explanation of what are commonly  referred to as  pulse-motors,  something I know very little about( and,  the usage of the  collapsing-field  ),  I  loosely( without thinking )  thought  that if I post  any  pulse-motor like design,  that it could relate to your design

If  you ever observe any similarities( I could never design anything even nearly similar to your design )  you, or anyone could let me know,  and my post could be deleted,  or my thread closed
  Most of my threads usually only last 1 day

( I only post  designs/ideas on my own threads, due to the possibility of post-deletion on this site,  which is available on some threads  )

yes,  the "I still don't get it" section,  also helped