Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor

[Jack Noskills]

Some notes about Belfior's setup which were not posted. This information is from PM's.

Energy collector was a 2*10m coil using 0.5mm enameled wire winded over a plastic tube having 5cm diameter and 50% turn offset was used. Primary was a simple four turn coil. Resonant frequency was 10.3MHz. Capacitance was not measured but based on itsu's aystem I estimate it to be about 2nF. Input signal was 10V square wave and 50% duty cycle was used.

At resonance 9V AC electric field potential appeared at the output. With 2nF capacitance this means 18nC charge appeared on the coil capacitor. A 47nF AC capacitor was connected in series and FWBR was connected to the AC capacitor. The remaining two coil ends were left freely hanging in the air. Result was as in figure 8 with C, FWBR and without blocking diodes. 40V DC was measured from the bridge which means 1880nC of charge appeared in the 47nF capacitor. This is obviously a result from induction. Induction occurs when something changes and the only thing that is changing is the oscillating electric field at 10.3MHz. Since the capacitor was in series the amount of charge going back-and-forth through the 47nF capacitor is 1880nC*10.3MHz*2 which is 38.7 amperes. So the output power should be about 40V*38.7A. Connecting a 3V led to the bridge resulted in white sparks and led was lit only dimly. Power did not come out. From wistiti's experiment on page four we know that connecting ground to capacitor minus improved the output significantly. So connecting a ground in this case should have resulted in the same behavior but this has not been tested.

So this is where we are at the moment. We have resonance but DC conversion has not been yet tested. itsu's system should be much better because primary was also a coil capacitor which creates superfast pulses but resonance at high frequency (8.9 MHz) has not been tested. It would be interesting to see the difference between these two systems in addition to DC conversion being done properly.

[Jack Noskills]

Went through the PM's and realized that I possibly misunderstood how the 47nf AC capacitor was connected with the FWBR. It could be that it was inside the bridge as a smoothing capacitor (fig 8. FWBR and C') and not outside in series (fig 8. FWBR and C) as I originally thought. If so, then my amperage calculation of the system is wrong. Belfior, can you comment about the setup you used ?

I stated in the pdf that there is a power of four relation between the capacitance of the energy collector coil capacitor and the amount of induced charge in the charge collecting capacitor per cycle. This could also be wrong if 47nf was inside the FWBR which lead me to wrong conclusion. The relation is 'only' a power of two. There is a power of four relation between the amount of induced charge in the energy collector and the amount of induced charge in the charge collecting capacitor per cycle though. This comes from the Coulomb's law and from the second order rate of change of the electric and magnetic fields in the energy collector. Both electric and magnetic fields change with time and position so they have this relation which results in increased voltage and amperage when the energy flow is converted into DC.

Notes about charge collecting capacitors in the energy collector. I think several capacitors connected in series can be charged from one energetic current. Or several FWBR C' blocks connected in series. I don't know if each capacitor should be connected to different ground or if they can share the same ground. Same ground would create a new path for the energetic current which could affect capacitor charging as part of the energy flow could bypass the charge collecting capacitor.

[size=0pt]There are plenty of options how to connect more capacitors in the energy collector, use your imagination and forget all you know about conventional current based systems. Open minded testing is the only way to advance this further.[/size]

[Belfior]

Went through the PM's and realized that I possibly misunderstood how the 47nf AC capacitor was connected with the FWBR. It could be that it was inside the bridge as a smoothing capacitor (fig 8. FWBR and C') and not outside in series (fig 8. FWBR and C) as I originally thought. If so, then my amperage calculation of the system is wrong. Belfior, can you comment about the setup you used ?

I stated in the pdf that there is a power of four relation between the capacitance of the energy collector coil capacitor and the amount of induced charge in the charge collecting capacitor per cycle. This could also be wrong if 47nf was inside the FWBR which lead me to wrong conclusion. The relation is 'only' a power of two. There is a power of four relation between the amount of induced charge in the energy collector and the amount of induced charge in the charge collecting capacitor per cycle though. This comes from the Coulomb's law and from the second order rate of change of the electric and magnetic fields in the energy collector. Both electric and magnetic fields change with time and position so they have this relation which results in increased voltage and amperage when the energy flow is converted into DC.

Notes about charge collecting capacitors in the energy collector. I think several capacitors connected in series can be charged from one energetic current. Or several FWBR C' blocks connected in series. I don't know if each capacitor should be connected to different ground or if they can share the same ground. Same ground would create a new path for the energetic current which could affect capacitor charging as part of the energy flow could bypass the charge collecting capacitor.

[size=0pt]There are plenty of options how to connect more capacitors in the energy collector, use your imagination and forget all you know about conventional current based systems. Open minded testing is the only way to advance this further.[/size]

If I remember correctly I had the FWBR attached to L2 (coilcap) and then the 0,047uF cap between the FWBR output

[Jack Noskills]

If I remember correctly I had the FWBR attached to L2 (coilcap) and then the 0,047uF cap between the FWBR output

Thanks for clarifying this issue Belfior! So it seems that with FWBR and C' the capacitor is charged to electric field potential squared divided by two, 9*9/2 AC = 40V DC. Do you have time for a couple of quick measurements, my wish list below ?
1.  [/font]Put blocking diodes at the free ends of the coil capacitor and connect them together. Does the electric field potential change from 9V AC ? The voltage in the capacitor should increase. What is this voltage ? Put some load and connect piece of metal as ground to minus terminal of the bridge. For example a piece of wire connected to aluminum foil should be a good ground. Test using two different ground sizes.
2.  [/font]The primary is a four turn solenoid so it is safe to test using ferrite. Use any kind of ferrite as core. Does the resonance frequency change from 10.3 MHz ?
3.  [/font]Remove ferrite and ground. Move the 47nf AC capacitor outside the FWBR so it will be in series like FWBR and C in figure 8. Use scope to measure the voltage from the bridge as the waveform is not constant DC. What is the peak voltage of the waveform ? Test also using a smaller capacitor, 10-20nf for example. These results can be used to compute the optimal capacitance. Then measure the capacitance of the coil capacitor. Now it is possible to see the relation between these two values.
4.  [/font]Move the capacitor inside the FWBR. Use two FWBR and C' in series. Both capacitors should charge to same voltage and there should be two outputs. Use two separate grounds first and measure the output power from both outputs. Finally connect the grounds together to test if one ground can be shared between the two outputs.
Same test as in 1 but use coil capacitor as primary. itsu, perhaps you could test this as well ?[/font]

[arhitrade]

Another study of the coil capacitor: https://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/coil_capacitor?lang=en